Originally posted by h1a8😬 heat vision travels at the speed of light and his freeze breath is significantly slower then that. How exactly is he hitting someone that can literally travel faster than both of his ranged attacks?
Superman can blow the shield away (or slow it), hv deflect it, go intangible, hv Cap while he attempts to throw it, or just dodge it.Superman can freeze and use hv and punching simultaneously.
Superman would only lose if this was h2h only.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can blow the shield away (or slow it), hv deflect it, go intangible, hv Cap while he attempts to throw it, or just dodge it.Superman can freeze and use hv and punching simultaneously.
Superman would only lose if this was h2h only.
Did he do any of this to Mjolnir or to Diana's tiara before it cuts his throat? That shield would be coming at enormous speed. And intangible? Really? Let someone tools out every possible thing Surfer can do and let's watch everyone cite how we practically never see it done in the comics.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can blow the shield away (or slow it), hv deflect it, go intangible, hv Cap while he attempts to throw it, or just dodge it.Superman can freeze and use hv and punching simultaneously.
Superman would only lose if this was h2h only.
So, if Cap with Superman strength threw his shield with all of his might at Superman, are you literally telling me Superman could stop it with ice breath? Are you crazy?
Superman can dodge the shield, but considering the fact that the two opponents are equal in speed, that is unlikely. The skill gap is astronomical, so simply being "as fast" is not enough. I'm "equal in speed" to anyone here, but if I was half as skilled as Cap, I would in reality be "faster" and my attacks would land and hit almost guaranteed.
Either way, I doubt Steve would even throw his shield in this scenario
Originally posted by deathslash
😬 heat vision travels at the speed of light and his freeze breath is significantly slower then that. How exactly is he hitting someone that can literally travel faster than both of his ranged attacks?
Cap can't travel faster than hv the first instant. He needs to speed up to light speed. Also I stated that Superman deflects the shield with hv or shoots at Cap while he's in his throwing motion. Cap can't throw the shield and try to avoid getting hit by hv at the same time.
Also Superman can use hv at close range (h2h range).
I never claimed that Superman can hit Cap with hv at a sufficiently large distance. He can easily hit Cap with it at close distances though.
Originally posted by carver9ice breath? No! Wind breath. It depends on how far the throw is coming from. The wind breath can indeed slow it down significantly if not stop it.
So, if Cap with Superman strength threw his shield with all of his might at Superman, are you literally telling me Superman could stop it with ice breath? Are you crazy?
What about my hv deflection? You just nitpick shit that doesn't change the grand scheme of things?
Originally posted by h1a8
ice breath? No! Wind breath. It depends on how far the throw is coming from. The wind breath can indeed slow it down significantly if not stop it.What about my hv deflection? You just nitpick shit that doesn't change the grand scheme of things?
What wind breath showings does Superman have that proves he can stop a shield toss from a VIBRANIUM WEAPON that absorbs kinetic energy from a person with ELITE strength. I need you to think on this for a bit. Think about this before you answer the question. Superman heat vision will get absorbed.
Originally posted by XLR87T3If another human throws a disk at you then you should be able to dodge it. Remember Cap is moving at the same speed as Superman. Also, the shield would be traveling at no more than light speed. Superman easily can dodge that speed.
Superman can dodge the shield, but considering the fact that the two opponents are equal in speed, that is unlikely. The skill gap is astronomical, so simply being "as fast" is not enough. I'm "equal in speed" to anyone here, but if I was half as skilled as Cap, I would in reality be "faster" and my attacks would land and hit almost guaranteed.Either way, I doubt Steve would even throw his shield in this scenario
The skill gap isn't astronomical. Superman is highly skilled. He has CA like feats and feats doing krpytonian martial arts.
But the two are equal in speed per OP. Skill does not matter.
Originally posted by carver9
What wind breath showings does Superman have that proves he can stop a shield toss from a VIBRANIUM WEAPON that absorbs kinetic energy from a person with ELITE strength. I need you to think on this for a bit. Think about this before you answer the question. Superman heat vision will get absorbed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWHahaha I'm actually a lurker mostly, although I'll give a comment every now and then. Basically a fly on the wall.
Who are you, XLR87T3?Your profile is saying you registered in 2016, but nobody remembers you.
Please identify yourself or I'll call gangsters with big dicks like Bada or Pr to investigate. Trust me, you don't want them to investigate.
They don't use lube.
Does that answer your question?
Originally posted by spetznaz... Captain Nigh Unbeatable. I presume Cap also doesn't have any of Supes' weaknesses? And Cap is also a master tactician.
Captain America in both scenarios ... Steve is used to fighting more powerful opponents, and has adapted his skills and fighting abilities towards that. Giving him the strength, speed, invulnerability etc of Superman would basically result in ...
Originally posted by h1a8riiight. Cause cap hasn't dodged bullets while accurately throwing his shield before.
Cap can't travel faster than hv the first instant. He needs to speed up to light speed. Also I stated that Superman deflects the shield with hv or shoots at Cap while he's in his throwing motion. Cap can't throw the shield and try to avoid getting hit by hv at the same time.Also Superman can use hv at close range (h2h range).
I never claimed that Superman can hit Cap with hv at a sufficiently large distance. He can easily hit Cap with it at close distances though.
I highly doubt that Clark will hit him with heat vision in close combat before cap breaks both of his legs, both of his arms, four ribs, his collarbone, his pelvis, and then his neck with his vastly superior h2h skill. Hell, wonder woman's avoided the heat vision at close range. Why can't cap (who's entire history consists of dodging what he can't block) manage to dodge it?
Originally posted by deathslash
riiight. Cause cap hasn't dodged bullets while accurately throwing his shield before.I highly doubt that Clark will hit him with heat vision in close combat before cap breaks both of his legs, both of his arms, four ribs, his collarbone, his pelvis, and then his neck with his vastly superior h2h skill. Hell, wonder woman's avoided the heat vision at close range. Why can't cap (who's entire history consists of dodging what he can't block) manage to dodge it?
No he hasn't. He only has one feat that I'm aware of actually dodging a bullet after the fire. He moved his head a half of foot (not his body). The other feats are aim dodging and don't count.
He moves at the same speed Superman moves. Thus Superman can easily block his attacks and counter with hv. Superman can go intangible. Superman can hit Cap with hv before Cap can throw a punch or kick. It's much faster than punch.
WW got beamed at close range. She uses her bracers to block from further distances. And Cap doesn't get WWs feats. Neither does Superman.
Originally posted by h1a8..... It's almost like you don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
No he hasn't. He only has one feat that I'm aware of actually dodging a bullet after the fire. He moved his head a half of foot (not his body). The other feats are aim dodging and don't count.He moves at the same speed Superman moves. Thus Superman can easily block his attacks and counter with hv. Superman can go intangible. Superman can hit Cap with hv before Cap can throw a punch or kick. It's much faster than punch.
WW got beamed at close range. She uses her bracers to block from further distances. And Cap doesn't get WWs feats. Neither does Superman.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/65209/1202118-captain_america.jpg
https://m.imgur.com/lNrqHEA
It's even an established fact that he dodges bullets often enough for it to be commented on.
https://m.imgur.com/SktzNMF
He even dodges lasers ffs.
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/AaYdU
And cap somehow is incapable of going intangible like Superman? He's incapable of dodging the heat vision with his faster than light reaction speed? He can't avoid his aim like he has with so many others?
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