Originally posted by dadudemon
The take away is that Dems need to get out and vote more often because it looks like the GOP is pruning in prep for Trump winning in 2020.
For sure, I noted that now is not the time for the Democrats to get complacent and lazy (like the often do), expecting votes to just pour in because of this Blue wave, they need to see what worked and what didn't here and streamline themselves for 2020, in order to keep the House, take the Senate along with the Oval.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]And Tales of DNC Voter Fraud seem to be popping up all over the place as well. [/B]
Dems don't need to commit voter fraud to win. They just need to stop being lazy and actually show up to vote.
Dems are lazier, on average, compared to old people in the GOP (like you) who do nothing but vote.
Originally posted by Robtard
For sure, I noted that now is not the time for the Democrats to get complacent and lazy (like the often do), expecting votes to just pour in because of this Blue wave, they need to see what worked and what didn't here and streamline themselves for 2020, in order to keep the House, take the Senate along with the Oval.
Everything here is great.
But you just KNOW they will blow it.
I just need universal healthcare and all our wars to end from the Dems and then I don't care if that party evaporates.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Everything here is great.But you just KNOW they will blow it.
I just need universal healthcare and all our wars to end from the Dems and then I don't care if that party evaporates.
Not so sure, they were supposed to "lose big" in 2018, according to the Trumpersphere. We'll see what the political climate is like in twoish years.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-base-isnt-enough/
Really good article about the mid terms. Goes into the turnout (it was incredibly high for a midterm election), what it may or may not mean for 2020, and also how Trump's base alone won't be enough to win him reelection in 2020.
Key takeaways:
-Democrats won independents this year by 12 points, and voters who voted for a thirdy party candidate in 2016 went to democrats by 13 points.
-There are more democrats than republicans in this country, charts show how that number has shifted throughout the years, and it does so by a few percentage points regularly. Currently dems have a +4 advantage. Also the number of independents has been rising steadily over the last 20 years or so. If that trend continues independents will outnumber republicans at some point over the next 4 or 5 years.
-Apparently in 2012 Obama won reelection despite losing independents by 5 points, which surprised me. I was under the impression that all winning presidents ended up winning independents. Obama was able to do this by appealing to the democratic base that doesn't regularly turnout for elections, and actually getting them to turn out to vote for him, offsetting Romney's independent advantage. This goes into the previous point, only being possible because there are more democrats than republicans in the country. Trump won't have this luxury because his base is too small, and so he will have to rely on those independent voters who currently seem to be turning against him.
-Usually after suffering a mid term defeat, as Trump did, the presidents who go on to survive and win a second term acknowledge that and begin making more moderate overtures and adjustments. Trump, at least in the two weeks since the mid terms, has not done that, and he will likely have to.
Originally posted by FlyattractorIs this the most paranoid post ever?
[b]Yes. The Educational and Entertainment Industry has decades now to brainwash the youth of this nation into becoming Freedom Hating Leftist Fascist.
The Experiment of Freedom will end in Fascist Totalitarianism.
Thanks Hollywood.
[/B]
Fly, two words, "Get Help!", actually three... "Get Help, Now!" You loon!
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Is this the most paranoid post ever?Fly, two words, "Get Help!", actually three... "Get Help, Now!" You loon!
We really need to get you and Quan a dictionary...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude literally pisses his pants over Hollywood. Those artists types are pure monsters. Fly should take himself out already and save the planet from his stupidity.
Now see.. This IS NOT a case of "paranoia" such as it is a case of Delusional Maddness.
Originally posted by quanchi112He truly has lost the plot, I know Fly of old, he used to post on a Dr Who forum a decade ago, he was non-political then and funny, everyone was a troll there. Now he has lost the plot to his trolling, it's difficult to know where Fly the man, Fly the troll and Fly the socker begins and ends.
Dude literally pisses his pants over Hollywood. Those artists types are pure monsters. Fly should take himself out already and save the planet from his stupidity.
Originally posted by BackFire
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-base-isnt-enough/
It is a decent article however they should have also mentioned the amount of money spent. The dollar per vote value, it takes alot of money to motivate the democratic base.
The green wave won the election.
Originally posted by BackFire
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-base-isnt-enough/Really good article about the mid terms. Goes into the turnout (it was incredibly high for a midterm election), what it may or may not mean for 2020, and also how Trump's base alone won't be enough to win him reelection in 2020.
Key takeaways:
-Democrats won independents this year by 12 points, and voters who voted for a thirdy party candidate in 2016 went to democrats by 13 points.
-There are more democrats than republicans in this country, charts show how that number has shifted throughout the years, and it does so by a few percentage points regularly. Currently dems have a +4 advantage. Also the number of independents has been rising steadily over the last 20 years or so. If that trend continues independents will outnumber republicans at some point over the next 4 or 5 years.
-Apparently in 2012 Obama won reelection despite losing independents by 5 points, which surprised me. I was under the impression that all winning presidents ended up winning independents. Obama was able to do this by appealing to the democratic base that doesn't regularly turnout for elections, and actually getting them to turn out to vote for him, offsetting Romney's independent advantage. This goes into the previous point, only being possible because there are more democrats than republicans in the country. Trump won't have this luxury because his base is too small, and so he will have to rely on those independent voters who currently seem to be turning against him.
-Usually after suffering a mid term defeat, as Trump did, the presidents who go on to survive and win a second term acknowledge that and begin making more moderate overtures and adjustments. Trump, at least in the two weeks since the mid terms, has not done that, and he will likely have to.
The Left not showing up to vote is an ongoing problem and it's likely going to remain a problem.
I can see Trump's political advisors telling him he needs to adjust his course, but I can't see Trump listening to them. IMO, he'll double-down as he typically does and stick to appeasing the people he already has in his corner no matter what. He'll manufacture another threat come 2020 (likely Mexicans again and/or Muslims) and bank his chances on fear voting.