Scarlet Witch vs Supergirl

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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Is that relevant?
You seem unfamiliar with the fact that comics are inconsistent so, yes, it is.

There's a few possibilities for why that is. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Alright.

Anyways, your input on this?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Alright.

Anyways, your input on this?

Which part? The off-topic one?

sure

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
https://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power-part-2

https://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power

So if I want to hit really hard, I just drop to the ground while absorbing all the gravity around me to increase my weight?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
So if I want to hit really hard, I just drop to the ground while absorbing all the gravity around me to increase my weight?

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
So if I want to hit really hard, I just drop to the ground while absorbing all the gravity around me to increase my weight?
Everybody knows in comics strength has nothing to do with punching power.

It's why Hulk can barely hurt people, even if he can bench-press continental plates.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
sure
Ask me a question, then.

Sure, since Abhi and others have failed to provide this request, where do you see Superman operate above planetary in JLA issues, or in his own solo series...

CONSISTENTLY

I can name a few where he at best tops at planetary

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
What are you talking about?
I have to increase my weight and go down to get the best punch.

Best way to do that is to increase my own gravity and just drop to the ground. Also I forgot I should spin a little. Those figure skaters do that spin where they go up and down. Is that what I should be doing?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Sure, since Abhi and others have failed to provide this request
No, they haven't. You're just choosing to ignore them.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
where do you see Superman operate above planetary in JLA issues, or in his own solo series...

CONSISTENTLY

I can name a few where he at best tops at planetary

Nobody in comics operates at constant power levels. It's why I asked you when you started reading comics, because everybody who's done so for more than 6 months - 1 year can tell you that.

Writers vary, story needs vary etc.

It's why people like carver exists, to cling on to the lower showings of other characters, while people like h1 exist, to make equations on their utmost capabilities.

Superman has bungee-jumped through black holes across the Universe in Pak's Brainiac end-arc, stopped Brainiac's larger-than-planets spaceship, benched the Earth for 5 days straight, barely breaking a sweat, without the sun, split a moon in half, held miniature black holes in his hand, taken 50 supernovas shockwave to the face and much more.

Crying 'but muh consistency' like a dicklet won't change anything.

Is this optimum punching form?

YouTube video

And then the same Superman got taken out by a tractor.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
What, a tiny ass explosion even though he took out its power?

Also, assumption from Orion as the next panel says what? Oh, that's right. This

"DOOMSDAY IS CANCELLED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. THE MAGEDDON WARHEAD HAS BEEN DISARMED"


Yes, because he absorbed the detonation that occurred and hence the anti sunlight which had made it dark was also diffused.

But let us know where the hypernova didn't detonate while it detonated on panel.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
"Bring proof from the comics"

That's even If there is even PROOF in the comics that punching power equals lifting strength, but there's no scan. so Im using real life examples on it


Yes, there is proof in the comics. Now as you gave conceded, get out of the thread.

SW wins.

@abhi where’s the proof in the comics that lifting equals striking?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Is this optimum punching form?

YouTube video

Tbh I’m not sure where your getting at here. Are you disagreeing with the rl examples that there’s no correlation with punching and lifting

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
@abhi where’s the proof in the comics that lifting equals striking?
It doesn’t. It’s like saying Ronnie Coleman the bodybuilder can punch like Mike Tyson. It’s silly.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Tbh I’m not sure where your getting at here. Are you disagreeing with the rl examples that there’s no correlation with punching and lifting
The way he worded it at the start is not something comic writers or artists would understand.

You'd be hard pressed to find any punches thrown with good technique in comics because writers don't understand the first ****ing thing about it. Then you take a look at the writers to further back that up. You think Mark Waid has ever even punched the air? You think he haymakers the air when he finds his wife in bed with 3 black men? No, he grabs a chair and sits backwards like an 80s cool guy.

You're trying to apply something to a medium filled with people that lack any understanding of it. You have to understand that although they can write, these writers are ****ing stupid at most things in the world. Same goes for science, same goes for fighting, same goes for white men. They know how to write a story, they don't know how things actually work.

There is only a few characters in comics who don't benefit from raw strength in their punches - Ben Grimm for example. Now, that's not to say lifting and punching is 1 to 1 as again, writers don't even know how to apply that, but it doesn't hurt, nor is it an entirely seperated concept like your link would leave us to believe.

If you showed your link to Jason Aaron do you think he could then explain to you how properly punching works? Doubtful. It's doubtful he could even apply it to himself, let alone turn around and explain the concept to his diverse audience in a comic.

Sometimes the things in our world and how they work just can't be the rule in comics. You can apply things of course, but you can't just rule everything out because no, this is the way it works to me. Superman might not be able to punch at universe lifting capabilities, but he's still going to hit pretty ****ing hard because of it.

Basically.

Or to boil it down, who can punch harder, Batman with his years of MA mastery, or Superman?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
The way he worded it at the start is not something comic writers or artists would understand.

You'd be hard pressed to find any punches thrown with good technique in comics because writers don't understand the first ****ing thing about it. Then you take a look at the writers to further back that up. You think Mark Waid has ever even punched the air? You think he haymakers the air when he finds his wife in bed with 3 black men? No, he grabs a chair and sits backwards like an 80s cool guy.

You're trying to apply something to a medium filled with people that lack any understanding of it. You have to understand that although they can write, these writers are ****ing stupid at most things in the world. Same goes for science, same goes for fighting, same goes for white men. They know how to write a story, they don't know how things actually work.

There is only a few characters in comics who don't benefit from raw strength in their punches - Ben Grimm for example. Now, that's not to say lifting and punching is 1 to 1 as again, writers don't even know how to apply that, but it doesn't hurt, nor is it an entirely seperated concept like your link would leave us to believe.

If you showed your link to Jason Aaron do you think he could then explain to you how properly punching works? Doubtful. It's doubtful he could even apply it to himself, let alone turn around and explain the concept to his diverse audience in a comic.

Sometimes the things in our world and how they work just can't be the rule in comics. You can apply things of course, but you can't just rule everything out because no, this is the way it works to me. Superman might not be able to punch at universe lifting capabilities, but he's still going to hit pretty ****ing hard because of it.

Spidey throws a majority of his punch's in mid air.

A lot of streets do:

Of course, we're also talking about characters who would break the Earth trying to dig into it with their feat. I don't think fighting mechanics apply, any more then it would for a Steam Shovel against Mike Tyson..