Scarlet Witch vs Supergirl

Started by Baziemarc12322 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

He has far better feats which are already shown.

Also he had ripped the white dwarf star two years ago.

So what do you think? Superman has any chance against Thor, eh your majesty?

If mon el did that 2 years ago itd be written in nu52/rebirth art. That feat he did was in post crisis, he hasn’t remotely operated at that level in late crisis or so

It's a matter of proof is all

You say there's no difference between them. So I'd like to see Supermans greatest lifting feat and greatest striking feat to determine if they are in fact, within the same power rang

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
If mon el did that 2 years ago itd be written in nu52/rebirth art. That feat he did was in post crisis, he hasn’t remotely operated at that level in late crisis or so

That feat happened in 1987. The Superman annual happened in 1990.

You can't be this stupid.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
It's a matter of proof is all

You say there's no difference between them. So I'd like to see Supermans greatest lifting feat and greatest striking feat to determine if they are in fact, within the same power rang


Why would that be? Is Superman punching with less strength than he is lifting something?

You can enhance your striking power above your strength, there is no precedent for lowering striking power beneath your strength.

There’s no correlation between lifting strength and striking

Tell that to Hulk.

Clark did learn how to fight. Boxed before his powers manifested, and learned a lot from Batman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That feat happened in 1987. The Superman annual happened in 1990.

You can't be this stupid.

Yeah EARLY Mon El. Are you saying he didn’t get weaker throughout the years? Because he hasn’t shown that type strength in modern age

Striking power and lifting strength don't even go hand to hand in terms of measurement

Striking is Force
Lifting is not, it's usually measured in newtons

Not to mention, again, we have never seen Superman lift/pull anything near stellar mass. It's always planetary levels. To say he can scale off Lobo when we (clearly) see him struggling with planetary level strength, is illogical to me

Why try and find "proof" by jumping through these hoops of speculations, when we've already gotten clear on panel evidence of his lifting strength? The evidence is right there

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
There’s no correlation between lifting strength and striking

Yeah, by whose authority?
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Yeah EARLY Mon El. Are you saying he didn’t get weaker throughout the years? Because he hasn’t shown that type strength in modern age

That's actually older Mon El with Legion.

He was in phantom zone for 1000 years and has never been shown to be weaker or stronger than his 21st century self.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, by whose authority?
That's actually older Mon El with Legion.

He was in phantom zone for 1000 years and has never been shown to be weaker or stronger than his 21st century self.

Young Mon El was the one that Superman fought

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Striking power and lifting strength don't even go hand to hand in terms of measurement

Striking is Force
Lifting is not, it's usually measured in newtons

Not to mention, again, we have never seen Superman lift/pull anything near stellar mass. It's always planetary levels. To say he can scale off Lobo when we (clearly) see him struggling with planetary level strength, is illogical to me

Why try and find "proof" by jumping through these hoops of speculations, when we've already gotten clear on panel evidence of his lifting strength? The evidence is right there


Actually he has.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now some strength showings.

Pulls Earth with a harness made by hal.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029f.jpg

Moves Earth+Moon+a huge ship from another solar system via hyperspace

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0043.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0044.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0045.jpg

Pulls himself out of the source wall which absorbs a planet across lightyears to the hole superman made

Superman holds a solar system destroyer black hole in his hand

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077e.jpg

While weakened moves earth with the help of J'onn and diana

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075b.jpg

Stops moon from spiraling out of orbit for hours opposing a machine which had the power output of a sun

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15249004/26.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248994/80PageGiant01a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248995/80PageGiant01b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248996/80PageGiant01c.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248998/80PageGiant01d.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248999/80PageGiant01e.jpg.html

Survives more than a planet's gravity

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618d.jpg

Pushes a growing star system out of orbit

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02b.jpg

These are condensed planets.

Also the mother of all lifting feats, the infinite book.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01k.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01l.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01m.jpg

Pushes a baby planet out of orbit

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02b.jpg

Pushes himself up in a black hole's gravity

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665b.jpg

This was a young superman to boot.

Stops a 70 miles long spaceship travelling fast enough to destroy a planet

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01d.jpg

Moves the endless millwheels of maggedon

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/JLA40-20.jpg

Throws a ship the size of a small moon to another solar system

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/moonmover.jpg

He stopped moon from moving when it was being moved by a machine with a sun as power source, threw a growing solar system away and stopped Starbreaker from moving Earth when Starbreaker had absorbed several red suns and opposing Hal and Superman drained him completely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that "50 earth weight"? Its again a conservative estimate at best.

Look what Starbreaker says in this scan.

"The power of countless red suns flows through my veins."

And that's not a hyperbole as we know he is an evolved sun-eater and has actually consumed the energy of suns.

http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform1.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform2.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform3.jpg

That was just two issues later.

And yet, Superman and Hal stalemating him completely depowered him.

So if we take "countless" as even two suns, that's [b]way more power than what h1 is using. I know its ludicrous, but facts are facts.

srug [/B]

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Young Mon El was the one that Superman fought

So? You're randomly throwing anything that goes in your mind without any proof whatsoever.

How about proving something for a change , you annoying punk?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually he has.

He stopped moon from moving when it was being moved by a machine with a sun as power source, threw a growing solar system away and stopped Starbreaker from moving Earth when Starbreaker had absorbed several red suns and opposing Hal and Superman drained him completely.

Where do we see Superman stopping Starbreaker from moving Earth?

and are you trying to pass it off as some kind of striking feat?

Oh wait, that Hal harness feat is supposed to be relevant to Starbreaker. yeah I remember, Hal had to assist Superman with the feat LOL

it'd only be planetary away

pushing the wheels is unquantifiable as hell, i know this feat been discussed too much to even be posted. it's definiately not stellar mass thats for sure

The Mageddon feat have been debunked. Superman fans always post something you've seen for years and try to pass as it off acting as if it hadn't been debunked on countless forums smh

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229004

Lol that 'debunk' is terrible.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol that 'debunk' is terrible.

Everybody always say that when they can't do so

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Everybody always say that when they can't do so

If I debunked it, would you defend it?

Bear in mind, I'll be using your own numbers lol.

2.5 million supernovas.

It's the sheer magnitude of the anti sunlight that the 'debunk' completely failed to take into account with a faulty analogy.

Drinking a bottle of rum? How about an entire swimming pool full of it? It's just not possible.

Superman drank the equivalent of multiple swimming, hell, entire oceans worth of rum, lol.

That's why it's faulty.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If I debunked it, would you defend it?

Bear in mind, I'll be using your own numbers lol.

2.5 million supernovas.

It's the sheer magnitude of the anti sunlight that the 'debunk' completely failed to take into account with a faulty analogy.

Drinking a bottle of rum? How about an entire swimming pool full of it? It's just not possible.

Superman drank the equivalent of multiple swimming, hell, entire oceans worth of rum, lol.

That's why it's faulty.

Are you talking about moving the gears of mageddon feat?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Are you talking about moving the gears of mageddon feat?

WTF are you on about lol.

Where in my post do I talk about gears? I'm talking about rum drinking.