Originally posted by abhilegendIf mon el did that 2 years ago itd be written in nu52/rebirth art. That feat he did was in post crisis, he hasn’t remotely operated at that level in late crisis or so
😂He has far better feats which are already shown.
Also he had ripped the white dwarf star two years ago.
So what do you think? Superman has any chance against Thor, eh your majesty?
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
It's a matter of proof is allYou say there's no difference between them. So I'd like to see Supermans greatest lifting feat and greatest striking feat to determine if they are in fact, within the same power rang
You can enhance your striking power above your strength, there is no precedent for lowering striking power beneath your strength.
Striking power and lifting strength don't even go hand to hand in terms of measurement
Striking is Force
Lifting is not, it's usually measured in newtons
Not to mention, again, we have never seen Superman lift/pull anything near stellar mass. It's always planetary levels. To say he can scale off Lobo when we (clearly) see him struggling with planetary level strength, is illogical to me
Why try and find "proof" by jumping through these hoops of speculations, when we've already gotten clear on panel evidence of his lifting strength? The evidence is right there
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
There’s no correlation between lifting strength and striking
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Yeah EARLY Mon El. Are you saying he didn’t get weaker throughout the years? Because he hasn’t shown that type strength in modern age
He was in phantom zone for 1000 years and has never been shown to be weaker or stronger than his 21st century self.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Striking power and lifting strength don't even go hand to hand in terms of measurementStriking is Force
Lifting is not, it's usually measured in newtonsNot to mention, again, we have never seen Superman lift/pull anything near stellar mass. It's always planetary levels. To say he can scale off Lobo when we (clearly) see him struggling with planetary level strength, is illogical to me
Why try and find "proof" by jumping through these hoops of speculations, when we've already gotten clear on panel evidence of his lifting strength? The evidence is right there
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now some strength showings.Pulls Earth with a harness made by hal.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029f.jpgMoves Earth+Moon+a huge ship from another solar system via hyperspace
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0043.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0044.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0045.jpgPulls himself out of the source wall which absorbs a planet across lightyears to the hole superman made
Superman holds a solar system destroyer black hole in his hand
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla077e.jpgWhile weakened moves earth with the help of J'onn and diana
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/jla075b.jpgStops moon from spiraling out of orbit for hours opposing a machine which had the power output of a sun
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15249004/26.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248994/80PageGiant01a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248995/80PageGiant01b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248996/80PageGiant01c.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248998/80PageGiant01d.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248999/80PageGiant01e.jpg.htmlSurvives more than a planet's gravity
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/adventuresof618d.jpgPushes a growing star system out of orbit
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/Trinity02b.jpgThese are condensed planets.
Also the mother of all lifting feats, the infinite book.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01k.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01l.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/beyond3d01m.jpgPushes a baby planet out of orbit
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/supermanbatmanannual02b.jpgPushes himself up in a black hole's gravity
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/superman665b.jpgThis was a young superman to boot.
Stops a 70 miles long spaceship travelling fast enough to destroy a planet
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01d.jpgMoves the endless millwheels of maggedon
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/JLA40-20.jpg
Throws a ship the size of a small moon to another solar system
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/moonmover.jpg
He stopped moon from moving when it was being moved by a machine with a sun as power source, threw a growing solar system away and stopped Starbreaker from moving Earth when Starbreaker had absorbed several red suns and opposing Hal and Superman drained him completely.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And that "50 earth weight"? Its again a conservative estimate at best.Look what Starbreaker says in this scan.
"The power of countless red suns flows through my veins."
And that's not a hyperbole as we know he is an evolved sun-eater and has actually consumed the energy of suns.
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform1.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform2.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform3.jpgThat was just two issues later.
And yet, Superman and Hal stalemating him completely depowered him.
So if we take "countless" as even two suns, that's [b]way more
power than what h1 is using. I know its ludicrous, but facts are facts.srug [/B]
Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually he has.He stopped moon from moving when it was being moved by a machine with a sun as power source, threw a growing solar system away and stopped Starbreaker from moving Earth when Starbreaker had absorbed several red suns and opposing Hal and Superman drained him completely.
Where do we see Superman stopping Starbreaker from moving Earth?
and are you trying to pass it off as some kind of striking feat?
Oh wait, that Hal harness feat is supposed to be relevant to Starbreaker. yeah I remember, Hal had to assist Superman with the feat LOL
it'd only be planetary away
pushing the wheels is unquantifiable as hell, i know this feat been discussed too much to even be posted. it's definiately not stellar mass thats for sure
The Mageddon feat have been debunked. Superman fans always post something you've seen for years and try to pass as it off acting as if it hadn't been debunked on countless forums smh
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Everybody always say that when they can't do so
If I debunked it, would you defend it?
Bear in mind, I'll be using your own numbers lol.
2.5 million supernovas.
It's the sheer magnitude of the anti sunlight that the 'debunk' completely failed to take into account with a faulty analogy.
Drinking a bottle of rum? How about an entire swimming pool full of it? It's just not possible.
Superman drank the equivalent of multiple swimming, hell, entire oceans worth of rum, lol.
That's why it's faulty.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If I debunked it, would you defend it?Bear in mind, I'll be using your own numbers lol.
2.5 million supernovas.
It's the sheer magnitude of the anti sunlight that the 'debunk' completely failed to take into account with a faulty analogy.
Drinking a bottle of rum? How about an entire swimming pool full of it? It's just not possible.
Superman drank the equivalent of multiple swimming, hell, entire oceans worth of rum, lol.
That's why it's faulty.
Are you talking about moving the gears of mageddon feat?
