Originally posted by Estacado
Also the horses.....what a random asspull....Not to mention the
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Death Star was blown the phuck up into pieces.....oh let's head back to Luke's island where I will live alone so I wont become a sith. Luke appears you wont become evil now go save the galaxy. Of phuck but I burnt my ship to the ground nevermind let me get you my old X wing from the bottom of the ocean oh and I forgot to tell you I also have one of those sith compass things... which you spent half of the movie looking for...
Pretty sure that
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that was Kylo's Wayfinder which he left in the ship that Rey stole. Honestly, I thought that that was kinda clever.
Ok just came back from it. I have to say I'm disappointed. Sure it's understandable since TLJ killed Snoke and left a mess with other things like wiped most of the rebels, but this movie still has its own fault.
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The climax sucks because of the personal conflict wasn't well handled. Both Kylo Ren and Rey were a swing and miss.Who was Kylo's main struggle? LUKE! But Luke was missing through the conflict with him. That has made his turn very weak. Snoke was also missing, at least he could show up as a Force Ghost because it WAS HE who turned him to the Dark Side.
Who was Rey's main struggle? Palpatine! He was the one who responsible for her parents' death and her only relative..
But Palpatine only appeared in this one and they didn't have enough interaction between the characters to bring up. To Rey he was a nobody other than keep manipulating her and killed her parents. He doesn't even have humanity anymore other than one or two lines.
Kylo and Rey has different struggle, and they really don't share much parallel at all. They failed as the core characters. Nor was others helping much.
Also how it was handled also sucks. All the struggle between Kylo and Rey was done after the battle in the Death Star II. But because Luke was missing, Kylo Ren's change was weak.
And Rey already knew she was Palpatine's granddaughter and her parents were killed. All the twist were gone so the climax was weak.
Let's look at OT, Vader has been menacing since EP4 and had a lot of interaction with Luke through the trilogy, the conflict and struggle was settled in both characters. Vader using Leia to cause Luke's outrage was the climax and made him so close to the Dark Side, then his decision turned Luke back to redeem Vader. It was tight, it was intense, it was nicely done.
PT didn't do that well, especially Padme and Anakin's love. But at least we saw Anakin's difference with Obi Wan and the Jedi. His relationship with Palpatine as well. The finale was strong enough to show Palpatine's scheme and Anakin dueling with Obi Wan.
The ending was nowhere close to EP3 or EP6 as well because the buildup and climax sucks.
I also think this ending has a lot similarities with the MMO SWTOR's KOTET xpc ending. The throne and a massive fleet, the fight with Valkorion/Palpatine was also quite similar. Even KOTET was handled better because we had enough interaction with Valkorion before.
Also the ship battle sucks compare to EP6 or RO.
BEST PART: The voice of the Jedi, including my favorite Ayala Secura.
Originally posted by SlowpokeSpoiler:
Also Rey has little to do with Tatooine, so its ending doesn't have the power like EP3's ending did. Her main struggle was with Palpatine so the Force Ghost of Luke and Leia doesn't help much.
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It makes no sense. Leia also has almost no connection with Tatooine other than being Jabba's slave and Luke's whole deal was that he wanted to leave it as he considered it a shithole. So having Rey make their grave there rings hollow.Oh, and Rey taking the Skywalker name was nonsense. She had very little interaction with Luke and the little she did he was a cynical *******. If she took a name it should have been Solo.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Anyone think they tried to have a Endgame moment when all the hero’s appeared through the portals whenSpoiler:
all the ships arrived with Lando
Yeah.
It was actually predicted here:
It's quite common, it was done plenty of times before Endgame.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWjust thought with it been Disney they’d repeat the same trick as it made a lot of people overlook how disappointing Endgame was hoping they’d do the same here.
Yeah.It was actually predicted here:
It's quite common, it was done plenty of times before Endgame.
Originally posted by Lighter332
I know about the leaks, genius.That and I’m not going to waste my hard-earned cash on a piece of shit movie that isn’t Star Wars.
Like I said, I’m a Star Wars fan.
You complained non-stop about this film for about a year before it came out, you've not watched it and are still moaning about it.
Scrounge up $10.00 or so, pick the change out of your friend's sofas, break the penny jar, whatever you have to do, go watch it and then continue moaning.