Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No but he has a Vibranium Shield which he is a master of
Yes but it's not always in his hand in a fight. Numerous times he's dropped it or lost it in the middle of a fight. So i don't need to prove that Cable's weapons can beat vibranium since:
1. Cap isn't made of vibranium
2. His shield doesn't protect his entire body ALL the time
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but it's not always in his hand in a fight. Numerous times he's dropped it or lost it in the middle of a fight. So i don't need to prove that Cable's weapons can beat vibranium since:1. Cap isn't made of vibranium
2. His shield doesn't protect his entire body ALL the time
Cap has efficiently defended himself from beings like Loki, Thor, IM, Ultron, WS and many others with that Shield.
I dont see Cable breaching Cap's superior skills bro. Future Weapons are nice, but that Shield is just nicer.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Cap has efficiently defended himself from beings like Loki, Thor, IM, Ultron, WS and many others with that Shield.I dont see Cable breaching Cap's superior skills bro. Future Weapons are nice, but that Shield is just nicer.
vs. Thor - Thor only tried to hit him once. Not exactly a great feat to pull for Cap.
vs. Loki - he lost the shield against Loki and was losing the fight if IM didn't interfere.
vs. IM - had help and IM wasn't using his full arsenal against Cap
vs. WS - again, lost the shield multiple times and got shot and cut. This proves that Cap is not unhittable even with his shield. Considering that Cable's guns are superior to WS's, had that been Cable's gun that Cap was shot with he'd be a gonner.
Originally posted by FrothByte
vs. Thor - Thor only tried to hit him once. Not exactly a great feat to pull for Cap.vs. Loki - he lost the shield against Loki and was losing the fight if IM didn't interfere.
vs. IM - had help and IM wasn't using his full arsenal against Cap
vs. WS - again, lost the shield multiple times and got shot and cut. This proves that Cap is not unhittable even with his shield. Considering that Cable's guns are superior to WS's, had that been Cable's gun that Cap was shot with he'd be a gonner.
He could withstand a full impact from Thor, he can hell as sure withstand anything Cable can pull out.
Loki and Scepter 》Cable and his gear.
IM 》 Cable
Winter Soldier is a better fighter than Cable. And, remember Cap never fought him seriously.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He could withstand a full impact from Thor, he can hell as sure withstand anything Cable can pull out.Loki and Scepter 》Cable and his gear.
IM 》 Cable
Winter Soldier is a better fighter than Cable. And, remember Cap never fought him seriously.
Pretty sure Cap was fighting WS seriously on the bridge. No proof to indicate he wasn't.
And I never said Cable can blast through the shield, I said Cap can't always protect himself with it, as has been proven multiple times already.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Pretty sure Cap was fighting WS seriously on the bridge. No proof to indicate he wasn't.And I never said Cable can blast through the shield, I said Cap can't always protect himself with it, as has been proven multiple times already.
If thats the case then IM was fighting Cap seriously by the end of CW.
Cap wouldnt stay standing getting shot. He would move forward, close the distance, and change the battle into a close quarters which would result in Cap winning. Once Cap is close, Cable's gun would be useless.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If thats the case then IM was fighting Cap seriously by the end of CW.Cap wouldnt stay standing getting shot. He would move forward, close the distance, and change the battle into a close quarters which would result in Cap winning. Once Cap is close, Cable's gun would be useless.
Only a complete idiot would think IM was going all out against Cap in CW.
Again, Cap has gotten hit by firearms and weapons before. He's not invincible.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
- Bucky never had any solo H2H against Thanos. Also, unless you think Steve can casually pin Spiderman down (which Thanos does on Titan), casually necksnap Loki (which he does early in the film), casually tear Tony's nano-suit helmet off (during their duel on Titan), or casually tear the Mind Stone out of Vision's vibranium head (which he does in Wakanda), and that Corvus Glaive (who had Steve pinned to the ground a bit earlier) is stronger than Thanos, the Titan clearly wasn't using all his strength against him. Especially, considering two years earlier, Steve couldn't overpower Buck's metal arm. He'd have to have gone from below Bucky's metal arm to basically near-Hulk level in the space of two years, somehow.
- Bucky barely fought against Spiderman, and only got pinned when he shielded Falcon from a hit.
- Tony was very clearly not going as hard against Steve as he was against Bucky. For example, Tony was shooting cuffs at Steve, while shooting missiles at Bucky.But wait, so are you actually saying Steve was holding back during the Civil War scene I mentioned? As you say it's "hard to come to any other conclusion". So, you're arguing Steve is an idiot who let Bucky throw him down an elevator shaft despite that being completely counterproductive to his agenda at the time?
I'm just saying, Pete caught bucky's metal arm punch no problem and cap was able to power through and beat Pete. And was going toe to toe with with glaive for a bit despite him being strong enough to break through vision's vibranium body. Steve has been consistently getting stronger with each movie he appears in.