Originally posted by MaZeRaIIIDensity is defined as mass per unit of volume. Making the spears denser would by definition increase the mass per unit volume of the spear, which would increase its weight.
Except it does, making something denser means making something more durable that's the definition of making something more dense, the only logical explanation is that Hulk's tough guy thus it is needed a more durable weapon to pierce him, simple as that.
There really isn't any way around this, you're just 100% wrong here my man. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBro
Density is defined as mass per unit of volume. Making the spears denser would by definition increase the mass per unit volume of the spear, which would increase its weight.There really isn't any way around this, you're just 100% wrong here my man. 👆
Cool you defined density, but not increasing it in proper terms especially not comic variation of it, you would be correct, if in mass part, if spear's actually became BIGGER and HEAVIER ala Giant Man essentially, but since there is no visual mass change effect whatsoever nor any evidence for that matter, then you are wrong in this regard, and in this part your argument falls flat.
Then there is another factor playing which has spear increasing density without getting additional mass, ie decreasing volume for additional density, which is supported in comics as that spear transforms into 3 small spears thus less volume and more density.
Also incresing density of the spear (even though it didn't grow bigger) doesn't mean it automatically changes the effects of black energy induces, which is a different aspect of spear's capabilities.
You tried well, but fell short a bit.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, be careful as regards the relationship between density and weight. Both of the big two play fast and loose with that connection.I know sweet **** all about Proxima's weapons mind you; it's just a general comment.
Well, in the Proxima/Hulk example, we have both density and weight statements, so the intent seems perfectly clear.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well, in the Proxima/Hulk example, we have both density and weight statements, so the intent seems perfectly clear.
Except the weight was hyperbole in basic form, by that logic of yours both Cap and Corvus tanked weight of the star, since the same effect was on them as well, it was pure hyperbole, it was explained countless times by now though.
As for density it merely references Spear's ability to turn into 3 small spears by creating less volume in each spear but more density.
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Except the weight was hyperbole in basic form, by that logic of yours both Cap and Corvus tanked weight of the star, since the same effect was on them as well, it was pure hyperbole, it was explained countless times by now though.As for density it merely references Spear's ability to turn into 3 small spears by creating less volume in each spear but more density.
Why did Hulk fall to his knees when he was hit by the spear and couldnt stand?
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Misunderstandings of what "density" part really represents.As well as hyperbolic aspect of weight statement, and counter-evidence completely irradicating that aspect.
Going purely by the scans posted in this thread, it looked to me like she was using a different attack on Hulk than she had intended for Cap.
Her dialogue supports that too.
Where's the contradictory evidence?
Originally posted by -Pr-
If that's true then what's the issue?
Relevant scans were already posted.
Infinity #6.
1. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11126/111260040/4890850-9865089673-34750.jpg
2. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11130/111304429/5926283-6839496394-36733.jpg
If you want to bust carver for massive trolling, then by all means, do us all a favour and check out "Can current Wonder Woman actually beat any of these Marvel heroes" thread, not this one.
Originally posted by MaZeRaIIIIf I put a 100 pound weight on your back, and you’re on all fours, you’re holding up that weight. Resisting getting squashed would be having your limbs all stretched out, face on the ground. Those are very different things.
Hulk didn't resist the weight of star, that's fake news, man.He was getting downed by it, not even able to stand up, that's not resisting, but the opposite of it.
On top of that Proxima's spear's energy has also engulfed Cap America and Corvus and they were also tanking that, so no weight of the star in both cases, that was hyperbole, given how Cap America's and Corvus's instances essentially debunk that there was weight of the star involved.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111271301/5285064-2318713342-1tRPh.jpg
He obviously resisted it, or he would be spread out, face on the ground. Him keeping his body off the ground is carrying said weight.
Also, Cap and Corvus obviously weren’t hit by the same thing. Even if you don’t think it was star weight, it was heavy enough to revert Hulk to Banner, it would obviously kill Cap if he was hit with the same thing. Unless you think Corvus and Cap are stronger than Hulk.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Relevant scans were already posted.Infinity #6.
1. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11126/111260040/4890850-9865089673-34750.jpg
2. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11130/111304429/5926283-6839496394-36733.jpgIf you want to bust carver for massive trolling, then by all means, do us all a favour and check out "Can current Wonder Woman actually beat any of these Marvel heroes" thread, not this one.
Funny you should say that, I thought Carver wasn't the one that was in the wrong, so maybe I need to re-read.
I'll have a ook.
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
It's not about weight, but durability, that's what is meant by increasing density, she said it then proceeded to change her spear into 3 small forms and attack Hulk, which works by decreasing volume to make things denser.
You also said Cap and Corvus withstood something Hulk couldnt. With that said, either Cap and Corvus didnt withstand the same attack or the attack was different or Cap and Corvus is stronger than Hulk. Your choice.
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Not relevant to the topic, the point is spear doesn't get someone with weight of the star.
It is relevant though because you are denying something that was told to us so since I cant accept the weight that was told to me in the comic AND the writer, you must've read something that told you a different weight.
