Thanos w/o IG vs. Thor w/o SB

Started by Darth Thor42 pages

Oh and btw I'm almost certain that commentary from the Russos comes over the Thanos beating on Hulk scene.

If so (someone who has the commentary please confirm) that would lend more credence to Froth's theory that the Russos might have just been talking about h2h combat. Being a "more polished fighter" certainly won't help defend against a Lightning blast coming at you.

Plus the whole "invincible in 1 vs 1 combat" has already been proven false in the same movie when Thor impaled Thanos in 1 vs 1 combat. So very likely Russos were referring to H2H.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh and btw I'm almost certain that commentary from the Russos comes over the Thanos beating on Hulk scene.

If so (someone who has the commentary please confirm) that would lend more credence to Froth's theory that the Russos might have just been talking about h2h combat. Being a "more polished fighter" certainly won't help defend against a Lightning blast coming at you.

Plus the whole "invincible in 1 vs 1 combat" has already been proven false in the same movie when Thor impaled Thanos in 1 vs 1 combat. So very likely Russos were referring to H2H.

It's also dumb to accept the Russo's comment as a blanket statement. Are you telling me a stone-less Thanos is undefeatable in 1v1 even against characters like Hela, Ego, Surtur and Dormammu?

I can understand (and agree) that Thanos would defeat majority of characters in pure h2h 1 on 1, even Thor, but I somehow find it silly to interpret the Russo's comment as meaning Thanos can defeat any enemy using their full powers while he remains unarmed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's also dumb to accept the Russo's comment as a blanket statement. Are you telling me a stone-less Thanos is undefeatable in 1v1 even against characters like Hela, Ego, Surtur and Dormammu?

Only Quan is taking it as a blanket statement. Im sure Josh will as well.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Only Quan is taking it as a blanket statement. Im sure Josh will as well.

Yes, agreed. Sorry, didn't mean to imply it was you.

Oh I know. And I think Base Thanos is above a pre- Stormbreaker Thor (even though he seems to have no defence atm against a Thor fighting from the Sky and whipping him up in a tornado).

But Hela > Base Thanos anyday IMO.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah its completely comparable. GM having Hulks back against Thor is again totally comparable 😂

I agree that Thor is most likely > Hulk, but GM stopping Thor doesn't prove that.

Why do you think GM decided to interfere?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They didnt say most powerful.

The only ones crying are you and Josh every time you watch Thor impale Thanos.

Yes, they did.

From the films opening scene he already has the Power Stone, and by the time the opening title plays he obtains the Time Stone as well. But wielding two Infinity Stones does not make him the most powerful villain in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He already had that distinction before his hunt for the stones because of his strong will.

Thor failed. Thor was the one with his head down by films end. Thanos smiles at films end after he achieved his goal you idiotic loser.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why do you think GM decided to interfere?

What makes him the expert? 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
and by the time the opening title plays he obtains the Time Stone as well.

*Space Stone

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
What makes him the expert? 😉

2 years of watching the Hulk fight.

Now, Why do you think GM decided to interfere?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course he will go for a better weapon if one is available Lmao. But he was clearly looking for a new Hammer. I.e. A Replacement Hammer.

Funny though how Thor never went to Eitri for a Hela killing weapon. Could it be because Hela already showed she can Crush Mjolnir?!

Yeah its completely comparable. GM having Hulks back against Thor is again totally comparable 😂

So you admit he went for a better one thus undermining your ridiculous he wanted an identical hammer nonsense. He said a weapon capable of killing the most powerful being in the universe. His old hammer could not do so, kid.

Maybe because it is a different film with different directors and he already acknowledged he was not powerful enough to beat her but Surtur was. He already knew she could not stand up to Surtur. Thanos would crush Surtur at that point in the film.

Hela cannot crush the axe which is far greater than his hammer so who cares? Surtur oneshotted her.

Thor did not best him and had considerable time to do so. Sorry but he has never proven to blow past the Hulk as they are peers. Your bias and nonsense is not objective by any stretch. Thor has yet to bear him so your opinion does not match up with the facts, kid.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
*Space Stone
Correct I copied this from a site I included the link in the original post. Typo on the site.

Originally posted by Silent Master
2 years of watching the Hulk fight.

Now, Why do you think GM decided to interfere?

He was worried he might lose but that is his opinion only so being corrupt he did not take the chance. Thor did not win and he had time to do so. Telling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they did.

From the films opening scene he already has the Power Stone, and by the time the opening title plays he obtains the Time Stone as well. [B]But wielding two Infinity Stones does not make him the most powerful villain in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He already had that distinction before his hunt for the stones because of his strong will.

Thor failed. Thor was the one with his head down by films end. Thanos smiles at films end after he achieved his goal you idiotic loser. [/B]

You dont make it clear what you are saying and what the Russos are saying.

Anyway That still says most powerful VILLAIN. And strong will doesnt suggest its talking about best power set.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was worried he might lose but that is his opinion only so being corrupt he did not take the chance. Thor did not win and he had time to do so. Telling.

Ah so Koraths opinion counts but GMs doesnt? The double standards are quite telling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)So you admit he went for a better one thus undermining your ridiculous he wanted an identical hammer nonsense. He said a weapon capable of killing the most powerful being in the universe. His old hammer could not do so, kid.

2)Maybe because it is a different film with different directors and he already acknowledged he was not powerful enough to beat her but Surtur was. He already knew she could not stand up to Surtur. Thanos would crush Surtur at that point in the film.

3)Hela cannot crush the axe which is far greater than his hammer so who cares? Surtur oneshotted her.

4)Thor did not best him and had considerable time to do so. Sorry but he has never proven to blow past the Hulk as they are peers. Your bias and nonsense is not objective by any stretch. Thor has yet to bear him so your opinion does not match up with the facts, kid.

1)No. I admit he would go for a better one if available. Obviously.

2) So you basically concede the directors themselves dont know everything as each film plays about differently depending on the directors. Nice. That said we have to go by canon.
Yes he couldnt beat her. But for Thanos he new he had a chance with a new hammer. Against Hela it seemed that would have been pointless given what she did to his last weapon.

3) Again proving He didnt know about Stormbreaker Pryor.

4) They only ever fought as equals in H2H. The second lightning cane into play it was a very one sided fight. Movie Hulk has no defence against Lightning or Tornadoes atm.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was worried he might lose but that is his opinion only so being corrupt he did not take the chance.

👆

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah so Koraths opinion counts but GMs doesnt? The double standards are quite telling.

True, which is why I agree Thor>Hulk. (The GM stopping Thor definitely implies that Thor>Hulk, my point was just that it doesn't PROVE it.)

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
The MCU clearly wanted to establish Thanos as the most powerful being in the universe, why else would they include that in the script? And Ronan confirmed it when he responded "not anymore", as he used the power stone.

The MCU clearly wanted to establish Thor > Hulk, why else would they include the GM stopping the fight in the script? And Thor confirmed it when he stated that he won the fight.