Thanos w/o IG vs. Thor w/o SB

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You dont make it clear what you are saying and what the Russos are saying.

Anyway That still says most powerful VILLAIN. And strong will doesnt suggest its talking about best power set.

Again he is the most powerful which is what I stated your mental gymnastics are your own insecurities coming into play. Thanos is the best and most powerful villain according to the filmmakers. Accept it, cur. 😂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah so Koraths opinion counts but GMs doesnt? The double standards are quite telling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not just his, Russos, Feige, Thor, all confirm the same thing. I have multiple instances both in and out of universe. I’m good at this, kid.

Good at exaggerating? Totally.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1)No. I admit he would go for a better one if available. Obviously.

2) So you basically concede the directors themselves dont know everything as each film plays about differently depending on the directors. Nice. That said we have to go by canon.
Yes he couldnt beat her. But for Thanos he new he had a chance with a new hammer. Against Hela it seemed that would have been pointless given what she did to his last weapon.

3) Again proving He didnt know about Stormbreaker Pryor.

4) They only ever fought as equals in H2H. The second lightning cane into play it was a very one sided fight. Movie Hulk has no defence against Lightning or Tornadoes atm.

2. I am saying they have complete authority over their narrative as long as Feige approves. Russos came after though so we take into account what led up to this. Both villains were beyond Thor without help ie. a new powerful weapon or Surtur and his weapon. Thor needed a Thanos killing weapon which you agreed is beyond his previous one so you agree with me. He would kill Hela with his ex as well. Thanos survived though, kid.

3. He already knew he had an option to defeat her more readily available than traveling somewhere wise so who cares. He knew he had to trigger ragnarok to easily kill her. Was not hard to do.

4. Iyo. Thor did not defeat Hulk. Fact. Continue to tell me more of your silly loser opinion which is not factual.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Good at exaggerating? Totally.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying he is the most powerful guy in the universe is done both in and out of the universe. You did not even know wakanda is a nation or what a siege is. You cannot handle facts.

I know Wakanda is a country, I admit I made a typo when I called it a city. Yet you chose to latch on to that minor detail instead of actually addressing my arguments which was that Thanos' troupes couldn't even break their force field, which makes them pretty crappy at sieges.

Also, are you claiming Thanos w/o the IG can handle a fully powered Ego or Dormammu?

Originally posted by FrothByte
I know Wakanda is a country, I admit I made a typo when I called it a city. Yet you chose to latch on to that minor detail instead of actually addressing my arguments which was that Thanos' troupes couldn't even break their force field, which makes them pretty crappy at sieges.

Also, are you claiming Thanos w/o the IG can handle a fully powered Ego or Dormammu?

The elves kind of failed and fled with their tails in between their legs at no point overwhelming Asgards lackluster forces. To compare the two is laughable.

All of those other guys needed others to achieve their objectives as well. Dormammu needed his entire dark dimension and despite his disciple bringing him over he still failed while ego needed a millennia of prep and another celestial to enact it. On neutral sites Thanos wins and with prep Thanos wins. Thanos is the most powerful guy in the universe and when we review the context it becomes readily apparent but most do not think it through.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They did breach through and a plot point was Bp knew they would not stand a chance if they breached at multiple points from behind and around them. So they controlled where they would let them in as long as they were not behind them and in controlled the entry point.

The elves kind of failed and fled with their tails in between their legs at no point overwhelming Asgards lackluster forces. To compare the two is laughable.

All of those other guys needed others to achieve their objectives as well. Dormammu needed his entire dark dimension and despite his disciple bringing him over he still failed while ego needed a millennia of prep and another celestial to enact it. On neutral sites Thanos wins and with prep Thanos wins. Thanos is the most powerful guy in the universe and when we review the context it becomes readily apparent but most do not think it through.

Wow. Talk about fanboy bias. You forget that Thanos didn't achieve his goals all on his own as well. And claiming Thanos w/o IG can beat beings as powerful as Dormamu, Ego or Surtur is just plain fanaticism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is the most powerful guy in the universe and when we review the context it becomes readily apparent but most do not think it through.

Not really. You got all excited when Nemebro took your side calling it all Obvious, but You are the only one claiming Thanos takes Surtur or Dormammu. So clearly not that obvious.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not really. You got all excited when Nemebro took your side calling it all Obvious, but You are the only one claiming Thanos takes Surtur or Dormammu. So clearly not that obvious.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wow. Talk about fanboy bias. You forget that Thanos didn't achieve his goals all on his own as well. And claiming Thanos w/o IG can beat beings as powerful as Dormamu, Ego or Surtur is just plain fanaticism.

Ego needed all a millennia of prep to fail and would need his own planet but with Thanos armed with the stones he would annihilate Ego. Surtur bearing Hela while impressive is not taking down the universes biggest badass Thanos. Feige approved.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The MCU clearly wanted to establish Thor > Hulk, why else would they include the GM stopping the fight in the script? And Thor confirmed it when he stated that he won the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know but Thanos met his goal the rest failed. Dormammu with his entire dark dimension failed against Strange with the time stone alone. Thanos would maul him with the stones.

Ego needed all a millennia of prep to fail and would need his own planet but with Thanos armed with the stones he would annihilate Ego. Surtur bearing Hela while impressive is not taking down the universes biggest badass Thanos. Feige approved.

Thanos achieved his goal only WITH THE IG and with a bunch of assistance from his army and generals. In this discussion he has none of those

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know but Thanos met his goal the rest failed. Dormammu with his entire dark dimension failed against Strange with the time stone alone. Thanos would maul him with the stones.

Ego needed all a millennia of prep to fail and would need his own planet but with Thanos armed with the stones he would annihilate Ego. Surtur bearing Hela while impressive is not taking down the universes biggest badass Thanos. Feige approved.

Dr Strange already used the time stone to defeat Thanos. All apart of the plan. So in the end Dr Strange wins

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thanos achieved his goal only WITH THE IG and with a bunch of assistance from his army and generals. In this discussion he has none of those

If we include prep Thanos wins if ego fights without it on a neutral site he loses as well. All things considered equal Thanos wins.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
So you agree that Korath's statement regarding Thanos is legit? 🙂

The point I was making is that you viewed it as legit, so why is his opinion legit and not the GM's?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you dud not read my post at all. You ignored the context. Thanos willpower is second to none. Quit crying over your opinion being incorrect.

You and Context dont mix.

Stop getting excited over Nemebro backing you up and defend your idiotic arguments.

Having will power and being the most polished fighter and beating Hulk in H2H does not equate to Thanos having the best power set. It just makes him the best Boxer.

Hence Surtur would crush him. Hela would batter him.

Heck Mjolnir Thor would have a chance in an open arena and if he fights smart.

Not really commenting on the thread, but Korath's statement doesn't really hold that much weight right now. However, this could actually change, depending on Captain Marvel, next year. Because we see both Ronan and Korath in that, which suggests they have been kicking it around space for a couple of decades by the time of GotG. Also, if they end up encountering fully powered Captain Marvel (who is apparently going to be the most powerful hero yet), and still had that exchange about Thanos, it would obviously change things. But we won't know until the movie drops and we see just how big of a part they play. As things stand, that kind of statement should be taken with a punch of salt IMO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I provided the link in my original post so your ignorance not withstanding he is the most powerful without the stones. Verified.

Again he is the most powerful which is what I stated your mental gymnastics are your own insecurities coming into play. Thanos is the best and most powerful villain according to the filmmakers. Accept it, cur. 😂

Given its talking about how hes conquered thousands of worlds, power also relates to the resources and armies at his disposal.

Stop throwing terms around like mental gymnastics in place of having a proper argument. Forum rules are ON SCREEN FEATS ONLY.

Heck youve already conceded Directors on their own are not completely reliable with your Different Directors for a Different Movie comment regarding why Thor did not go to Eitri for a Hela killing weapon in Ragnarok.

You can use Directors commentary to BACK UP those On Screen feats only. IOW Thanos beating up Hulk in H2H backed by the commentary makes it certain he would beat Thor in H2H just as quickly, and may be the best H2H fighter in the MCU. But thats it.

He has conquered thousands of worlds with HIS ARMIES. So combined with his armies he may be the most powerful villain.

But no where is it stated he has the best power set. Heck the invincible in 1 vs 1 combat was outright proven false at the end. Which proves you are quoting the Russos out of context, given its their movie so I am pretty sure they know Thor overpowered Thanos and his IG at the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Ok so his original hammer is a moot point.

2. I am saying they have complete authority over their narrative as long as Feige approves. Russos came after though so we take into account what led up to this. Both villains were beyond Thor without help ie. a new powerful weapon or Surtur and his weapon. Thor needed a Thanos killing weapon which you agreed is beyond his previous one so you agree with me. He would kill Hela with his ex as well. Thanos survived though, kid.

3. He already knew he had an option to defeat her more readily available than traveling somewhere wise so who cares. He knew he had to trigger ragnarok to easily kill her. Was not hard to do.

4. Iyo. Thor did not defeat Hulk. Fact. Continue to tell me more of your silly loser opinion which is not factual.

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1. Lol no thats what he was looking for. The dialogue makes that clear.

2. Russos are not the only Directors. What they say is ultimately their opinion but the overall canon means more. Like Vaultdweller has pointed out above, if Korath knows of Captain Marvel then that changes the meaning of his line.
Nah it wouldnt kill Hela. She had been stabbed through the chest which literally did nothing to her. I know this pains you to no end but ON SCREEN FEATS trump your fantasy.

3. No. Watch the film. He only dared to think of using Surtur at the end after Odin tells him Asgard is a people not a place.

4. Whose playing mental gymnastics now. Hulk forfeited the fight by not only letting GM help him, but instantly taking advantage of it.