Originally posted by SurturI challenge you to a decathalon. Physical activities filmed by an agreed to 3rd party on kmc. Post the video evidence s proof. Do you accept?
They are worse when it comes to physical standards. It's funny. Do I need to post the video of the feminist crying over this being pointed out? Cuz that shit is hilarious.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The problem with these sorts of physicals standards is that they are often not based on the physical requirements of the role, but on an arbitrary physical standard that was set at a time when only men held those roles.Most women are not going to meet the same upper-body strength feats as most men, but most men are not going to meet the same lower-body strength feats as most women. Women are effectively being penalized for not meeting a standard that was modeled after men, and not the physical requirements for the role.
But hey, it allows people like SquallX to be a hard-ass and justify why women should not be in combat roles, even though there is no relationship between the number of push-ups one can do before exertion and their ability to pull a ****ing trigger.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I challenge you to a decathalon. Physical activities filmed by an agreed to 3rd party on kmc. Post the video evidence s proof. Do you accept?
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This is a first.
This is the only time I've ever seen someone challenge another person, on the internet, to a decathlon. crylaugh
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Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think that's actually true. Men on average are superior in both upper and lower body strength, though there's not as large a gap when it comes to lower body strength. It might be true that women have the lower body edge proportionate to their size(not sure about that one), but as far as measuring pure raw power goes the average man has more strength in his legs than the average woman.
Woman's basketball.
The truth is, the very best woman are doing stuff the guys did when they were kids. That's why so few people enjoy woman's basketball.
Hell, I've heard hardened feminists scoff at woman's basketball. Just laugh out loud ridiculing.
Full disclosure: I watch woman's college basketball. Go Huskey's!
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The problem with these sorts of physicals standards is that they are often not based on the physical requirements of the role, but on an arbitrary physical standard that was set at a time when only men held those roles.Most women are not going to meet the same upper-body strength feats as most men, but most men are not going to meet the same lower-body strength feats as most women. Women are effectively being penalized for not meeting a standard that was modeled after men, and not the physical requirements for the role.
But hey, it allows people like SquallX to be a hard-ass and justify why women should not be in combat roles, even though there is no relationship between the number of push-ups one can do before exertion and their ability to pull a ****ing trigger.
What kind of standards are we talking about? Do you have a source for that?
Not that I'm one to demand such, I ramble all the time without supplying anything, but if you happen to, is all I'm asking.. 🙂
The best part about bringing up pushups in this context is...aren't there also specific "lady" pushups?
Gee, why did those need to ever be used? Not like women are physically weaker than men on average and this is a biological fact. Surely this information shouldn't trigger posters here into spazzing out and demanding to know how many pushups one can do.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The problem with these sorts of physicals standards is that they are often not based on the physical requirements of the role, but on an arbitrary physical standard that was set at a time when only men held those roles.Most women are not going to meet the same upper-body strength feats as most men, but most men are not going to meet the same lower-body strength feats as most women. Women are effectively being penalized for not meeting a standard that was modeled after men, and not the physical requirements for the role.
But hey, it allows people like SquallX to be a hard-ass and justify why women should not be in combat roles, even though there is no relationship between the number of push-ups one can do before exertion and their ability to pull a ****ing trigger.
Add me to the list of people wanting to know how the tests weren't fit to the specific post. Not allowing people meeting certain physicals standards is a serious job and should be respected for protecting the people involved and their coworkers in difficult situations.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The problem with these sorts of physicals standards is that they are often not based on the physical requirements of the role, but on an arbitrary physical standard that was set at a time when only men held those roles.
I'm sympathetic to this idea, and if the physical standards of a job are higher than the actual requirements lowering them is fine. What jobs do you have in mind? Got a citation?
Most women are not going to meet the same upper-body strength feats as most men, but most men are not going to meet the same lower-body strength feats as most women. Women are effectively being penalized for not meeting a standard that was modeled after men, and not the physical requirements for the role.
Do you have a source that indicates that on average a woman's lower body strength is greater than that of a woman's? Because in my experience that is not even close to being the case. In high school on the leg press (leg presses are sissy but unlike squats it doesn't utilize the upper body at all) the lads pressed far more than the ladies, and a few of us could press more than a thousand pounds. I can't recall a single female doing so.
But hey, it allows people like SquallX to be a hard-ass and justify why women should not be in combat roles, even though there is no relationship between the number of push-ups one can do before exertion and their ability to pull a ****ing trigger.
So I'm not in the military, but I'm reasonably certain that being physically fit enough to haul heavy combat gear long distances is a big part of being in a combat role. Am I wrong?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Do you have a source that indicates that on average women's lower body strength is greater than men's? Because in my experience that is not even close to being the case. In high school on the leg press (leg presses are sissy but unlike squats it doesn't utilize the upper body at all) the lads pressed far more than the ladies, and a few of us could press more than a thousand pounds. I can't recall a single female doing so.
I think the myth comes from powerlift meets where lift to body-weight ratio is calculated and women have a higher lift to body-weight ratio for lower body than men, on average. There's an old YouTube video I watched about this years ago.
Obviously, he's not talking about lift to body-weight ratios. But it's close enough to what he's talking about to drive home his point.
However, his point goes completely out the window when you have men and women in the same weight classes.
I did 455lbs straight-bar dead-lifts for 13 reps when I weighed 167lbs. 2 weeks prior, I competed in a powerlifting competition. In that competition, no woman in all the weight classes broke 400lbs for a one-rep max. I was 6th in my weight class.
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