Originally posted by Galan007i guess so. explains why luke was able to get so powerful i guess.
But people do this in real life all the time. Say you don't know how to change the headlight in your car -- all you need to do is watch a 5 minute video on YouTube, and *poof*, that becomes a new skill you now have.Holocrons act in a similar capacity for Force-users. Many are loaded with high-level(and often forgotten) abilities/knowledge, which can allow the viewer to level-up considerably as a result of their teachings. There is effectively no difference between learning skills from a living person, and learning them from a Holocron -- the biggest distinction is that Holocrons typically cut out most of the "filler", and get right to the point(s).
still just seems like a bit of a copout to me. ermm
So if Dream can remake the universe if 1000 people share a dream, and if a magic circle can trap Dream, does that mean anything inside of a magic circle would not be changed with the universe?
Like, say if the cats revert reality to giant bloodthirsty human hunting beasts, and John Constantine just happened to be hanging out inside a magic circle for some reason?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Defenders Beyond makes Phoenix Force more powerful than Beyonder and gets beaten up by Tiger God lol and matched by Blue Marvel. Ewing is going to butcher every cosmic character in marvel.
How powerful is the heat of one star?
https://ibb.co/Fgt9Bx6
Originally posted by Astner
Originally posted by Astner
It's the only feat that's to some degree described in a quantifiable manner. "The heat of ten billion suns," is a bit ambiguous because the Sun's temperature ranges from 5,780 Kelvin at its surface up to 15,700,000 Kelvin in its core, for reference that's 9,940 to 28,300,000 Fahrenheit.If we interpret the heat of ten billion suns as being commutative, i.e. if we simply add together the temperatures of ten billion suns, we end up with 5.78×10¹³ K to 2.38×10¹⁷ K which may seem impressive, but it's a far-cry from for instance the Planck Heat 1.42×10³² K that the Marquis of Death endured.
And this is a generous estimation, because what it means is that these suns would have to be super-positioned (exist in the same space) because a quasar that's simply ten billion times the mass of the Sun is going to have the same effective temperature of the sun, with the exception of the core which peaks at 4×10¹² K.
Surviving these temperatures would be an impressive feat for regular Superman. But when you talk about cosmic level beings, then no naturally occurring force should be able to hurt them.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
How powerful is the heat of one star?
https://ibb.co/Fgt9Bx6
Originally posted by AstnerNice, Phoenix Force is greater than omnipotent
That said Defenders: Beyond #3 was terrible.The only interesting thing that came out of it was a concession from the Beyonder that the Phoenix on in the White Hot Room is more powerful than him.
Omega-class Omnipotent
Omnipotence Prime Gold Superelite Status
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
How powerful is the heat of one star?
https://ibb.co/Fgt9Bx6
heat of the star>phoenix force>omnipotent beyonder
the heat of the star is super omnipotent ssj2
Sort of reiterates the fact that anytime a character is dubbed "omnipotent", it should really be taken with a grain of salt.
Because now, Phoenix-level "omnipotence" > Beyonder-level "omnipotence" > Celestial-level "omnipotence"... And I can only assume the master/ruler of the Abyss(perhaps Oblivion?) will hold an even greater order of "omnipotence" still.
Marvel/Ewing uses that term like it belongs in the CB Tiers thread, because evidently there can be multiple "levels" within the same tier.
