Suicide Squad vs. X-Force

Mostly but not all. And in terms of speed, you haven't showed fantom doing it to someone as fast as cheetah. No PIS, in a forum match, the speedsters get the advantage.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Mostly but not all. And in terms of speed, you haven't showed fantom doing it to someone as fast as cheetah. No PIS, in a forum match, the speedsters get the advantage.

We don't need to theres no proof shes any faster than Quicksilver or Speed Demon. Her tagging Flash doesn't prove shes as fast or faster than Flash because Batman and Deathstroke have both reacted to Flash.

Lots of characters who are slower than speedsters have tagged speedsters even without PIS. What you're forgetting he doesn't have to physically move he just has to think.

What kind of GUN and Ammo are Deadshot allowed to use here? Is he Limited to some pussy 9mm or something or can he use Big Sci Fi Comic Book Guns in This?

^ He uses his regular equipment.

Originally posted by Deadline
^ He uses his regular equipment.

Don't waste your time with Fly.

He's a bot.

Originally posted by Deadline
^ He uses his regular equipment.

So Lawton wasn't given any intel on who he was going to be shooting at then?

Originally posted by Deadline
We don't need to theres no proof shes any faster than Quicksilver or Speed Demon. Her tagging Flash doesn't prove shes as fast or faster than Flash because Batman and Deathstroke have both reacted to Flash.

Lots of characters who are slower than speedsters have tagged speedsters even without PIS. What you're forgetting [b]he doesn't have to physically move he just has to think. [/B]

Quicksilver isn't a good example. Hes not as agile, durable strong, nor does he have the healing of cheetah.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Quicksilver isn't a good example. Hes not as agile, durable strong, nor does he have the healing of cheetah.

Strength, durability and healing isn't going to help against a misdirection. You don't get it YOU need to prove shes faster than Quicksilver. You just have her tagging Flash and that proves nothing.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So Lawton wasn't given any intel on who he was going to be shooting at then? [/B]

Just common knowledge.

Originally posted by Deadline
Strength, durability and healing isn't going to help against a misdirection. You don't get it YOU need to prove shes faster than Quicksilver. You just have her tagging Flash and that proves nothing.

Just common knowledge.

I said it before, it depends on who gets the first attack off. I just don't feel comfortable giving Fantomex the advantage, when cheetah is faster than he can think. On top of parasites drain, manta, shade, etc...

Originally posted by Deadline

Just common knowledge.

Just sayin...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
N52/Rebirth, please. Your examples and feats aren't valid

Rebirth merges pre 52 and N52. It makes the examples valid.

Originally posted by beatboks
Rebirth merges pre 52 and N52. It makes the examples valid.

Lol.

Parasite is Joshua Michael Allen. Not your scans.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Quicksilver isn't a good example. Hes not as agile, durable strong, nor does he have the healing of cheetah.

Current Cheetah never tangled with Flash.

Originally posted by beatboks
Rebirth merges pre 52 and N52. It makes the examples valid.

For Superman alone, last I heard. If you have new info or something I missed, please link me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Current Cheetah never tangled with Flash.

I know. Doesn't negate the fact that Cheetah is faster than X-Force. That's one of her claim to fames. She's tangled with WW, right? Fast enough.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I know. Doesn't negate the fact that Cheetah is faster than X-Force. That's one of her claim to fames. She's tangled with WW, right? Fast enough.

So has Bats 🙂

So you have no feats at all of hers to show she's too fast?

Just the N52 feats, but I don't see where they retconned that from continuity.

I'm not sure if old dc feats are excluded because a lot of characters haven't changed. Even if Cheetahs origin is the same she still seems to have pretty much the same powerset.

I wasn't aware that Rebirth was a reboot. Seems like they change the characters origins all the time. Batman, Cheetah, and now Martian Manhunter's history. Darksaint said there was no horn, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a different Cheetah/character entirely. Breezing through the issues of Wondy Woman, Rebirth Cheetah doesn't even have that many feats, if at all. Same with her appearances in Justice League.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I wasn't aware that Rebirth was a reboot. Seems like they change the characters origins all the time. Batman, Cheetah, and now Martian Manhunter's history. Darksaint said there was no horn, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a different Cheetah/character entirely. Breezing through the issues of Wondy Woman, Rebirth Cheetah doesn't even have that many feats, if at all. Same with her appearances in Justice League.

Don't worry about it. Rebirth wont' be around much longer. Dan Dildo and Bend Dick Bendis are destroying it so they can bring back Nu52.