Originally posted by -Pr-I'm curious to see if the conclusion of Doomsday Clock alters DC continuity at all, give the decade of history that Manhattan evidently shaved off the timeline..?
They need to reboot again soon anyway, to fix the ****ing mess they've made.Then again, if they gave Marvel even one of those reboots from their massive stock of them, it would only be a good thing imo.
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm curious to see if the conclusion of Doomsday Clock alters DC continuity at all, give the decade of history that Manhattan evidently shaved off the timeline..?
I hope it does. It hurts my head trying to reconcile Superman's history being changed with the New 52/Rebirth continuity. I mean, are we just supposed to ignore all those post-crisis issues of JLA where he interacted with post-crisis versions of his team-mates? Some of them are fine, like Batman, but some are drastically different, like Aquaman. It doesn't fit.
Originally posted by Galan007There's no other solution, since that's the entire 'hidden' plot point. One way or another [i.e. Superman punching him so hard he resets the Multiverse back, lol], the years will get back.
I'm curious to see if the conclusion of Doomsday Clock alters DC continuity at all, give the decade of history that Manhattan evidently shaved off the timeline..?
I don't have a dog in this - but worth noting is that everybody related to Superman's history was put back [and Parasite is explicitly shown, too]:
"For them, and those connected to them, twin realities are now united as one:
But Parasite is a different guy. Completely different name and everything.
The guy Beatboks and Golgo were showing scans for we're for Rudy Jones and maybe Allston/Jensen.
In n52/Rebirth, his name is Joshua Allen. Completely different origin, as well.
It's like arguing Blue Beetle Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes are the same.
And how far does it go?
It's narration like this:
And quotes from Jim Lee like this one (emphasis mine):
I think as exciting as the “New 52” was, it didn't address certain elements that were very unique and identifiably DC. And I think over the years, as we moved the “New 52” forward, we realized we were missing an opportunity by overlooking things like legacy and generations and the things that were hallmarks of the DC Universe.So what that allows us to do is talk again about, was there a Justice Society?
Talk again about a multi-generation of heroes and sidekicks.
And in a way, this was all there before Flashpoint, before the “New 52.”
Geoff came up with this brilliant story that basically allows us to seat the “New 52” within the continuity that preceded it.
So it really synchronizes and harmonizes pre-52 with “New 52” continuity, I think in an elegant way that allows, I think, long-time fans to have their cake and eat it too, and all the new fans that we got through the “New 52” to keep up with the fact that the universe is continuing to grow and evolve and is exciting and new.
That make me believe that Post-Crisis will inevitably be canon again, though probably most likely a kind of "Post-Crisis and New 52 both happened. Deal with it." thing. As much as it will make the current state of things a ****ing mess, in the long-run I think they'll (DC and it's characters) be better off.
Originally posted by -Pr-Yeah, there's no doubt about this. Superman just got a head start - full on with having New 52 happening within Post-Crisis, as Jim Lee said.
It's narration like this:And quotes from Jim Lee like this one (emphasis mine):
That make me believe that Post-Crisis will inevitably be canon again, though probably most likely a kind of "Post-Crisis and New 52 both happened. Deal with it." thing. As much as it will make the current state of things a ****ing mess, in the long-run I think they'll (DC and it's characters) be better off.
I mean, JSA is coming back. Kon-El will be coming back. etc.
Also, notice rebuilt. Not built. It's just 'putting it all back together'.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaI hope Rudy absorbs him. The current parasite is a joke compared to the original.
Oh, they're definitely different.It's kind of like black Wally West [eh...Wallace West!] still running around with red haired Wally.
I'd suspect either the current Parasite will change his name to Rudy without any sort of explanation, or get absorbed by the previous one.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They've definitely changed Cheetah's origins.Lol@ Golgo though. Pre Rebirth, she had one feat, which you hang your hat on. That's it. And yet, because she doesn't have a Flash tagging feat, you don't want to use Rebirth 😂
Nah. She has more than one feat. What does rebirth have? Killing poisideon?
Some misconceptions on both sides from the past couple of pages. Not really sure how to proceed as I am not quoting forty different posts.
Eye beams aren't automatically lightspeed and Fantomex never misdirected Jean/Xavier (except in the literal sense of being deliberately confusing). Lightspeed+ Quicksilver is more than a bit debatable too.
Cheetah was stated to be as fast as the Flash. It's only a statement, but I do give her the benefit of the doubt due to showings.
https://postimg.cc/TLXpYpXk
On the other hand, the others do have a point about her less than stellar average. It's a brief career, and comics are comics, so I'm not sure how to handle that. And continuity changes may make things even murkier. I guess I can't fault people for doubting her.
Originally posted by -Pr-
For Superman alone, last I heard. If you have new info or something I missed, please link me.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.Parasite is Joshua Michael Allen. Not your scans.
No new info PR just comon sense.
If Superman's pre 52 history is now valid then all the villains hes fought have to have done the same things to him. Or are you saying his history is intact excluding those that were involved in said history?
Last time I checked Parasite is a Superman villain. Whether its a different person or not Superman's pre flashpoint history includes the battles I mentioned and for it to be canon in current continuitt then Parasite has to have done those things.
Rebirth merging pre and post flashpoint continuity for Superman by extension means any interaction he had pre FP has to also be valid. Ergo team ups and battles with enemies.
