KMC Comic Book Tiers (v2.0)

Started by Galan00730 pages

*Added the following characters to the list:

Captain Nazi- HM
Lord Satanus- Trans
Asmodel- HH
Bane (w Venom)- LM
Talon (Calvin Rose)- HS

*Kept Black Widow and Nate as-is.

Regarding Felix, this respect thread has most of his noteworthy showings:
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/75usnw/respect_felix_harmon_the_butcher_of_gotham_dc_new/
He doesn't have an abundance of appearances, but it seems like he has enough to at least put him in the LM tier, imo... But I'm fine with whatever you guys think.

Once Felix has been sorted out, what other proposals do we have?

👆 to gwen and silk.

@phil--IM has some....odd feats to his name. def not plastic man lite though. he has feats that might range from the meta to the...beyond trans tier? i don't think it's ever been proven or disproven that it was 616 IM who appeared in excalibur years ago. if that was the 616 version, he populated the earth with crazy copies of 616 heroes. it was a very impressive feat.

maybe he's too hard to place but was wondering about what people thought.

Yeah, Gotham Butcher/Felix Harmon to low meta

👆 I put Felix in at LM. If others disagree, he can always be moved.

So where do we stand with proposals now?

Yes to all 3 [Butcher, Gwen, Silk].

Sauron to high meta?

*Added Spider-Gwen and Silk to LM. Seemed pretty unanimous.

Looks like the current unanswered proposals are:

David Cain- HS
Citizen Steel- MH
Sauron- HM

Any others?

Sodam Yat? But I don't know which version we should add. I guess the 'baseline' one [daxamite & GL ring], because he probably won't get back with Ion. M/H-H?

Agree on Citizen Steel.

So the current proposals:

David Cain- HS
Citizen Steel- MH
Sauron- HM
Sodam Yat (standard GL)- MH

I agree with all of them, tbh.

Agreed on all proposals.

I can see Steel as being LH, just because to me, he's quite 1 dimensional.

Valkyrie?

Mid meta?

Originally posted by Smurph
Valkyrie - mid meta
Agree.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I can see Steel as being LH, just because to me, he's quite 1 dimensional.

"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

Originally posted by Smurph
Valkyrie?

Mid meta?

👆

Are we still good with Zod at MH?

*Added the following characters to the list:

David Cain- HS
Citizen Steel- MH
Sauron- HM
Sodam Yat (standard GL)- MH
Valkyrie- MM

*CS can always be moved down if more people feel the same as DS.

Originally posted by Phil
😂

I mean, now that Superman is Trans, and characters like Dianna and Orion are at HH, it seems kind of odd to not have Zod there... Especially given some of his more recent showings. /shrug

i'm fine with zod where he is and i'd say hm for val. her sword has some pretty decent feats. i agree with ds as regards steel--lh for me. cain, yat and sauron i agree with the suggested placements. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
I mean, now that Superman is Trans, and characters like Dianna and Orion are at HH, it seems kind of odd to not have Zod there... Especially given some of his more recent showings. /shrug
Well, you know I agree. Ever since he has appeared, he has:
- one shot KOd a bloodlusted Supergirl
- one shot Cyborg Superman
- beat Eradicator unconscious
- beat Kyle [w/Hals ring, and also tanked his amped attack unphazed]
- beat God Will-Hal [but lost the rematch/maybe threw it]
- went against Rogol in a fight that shook a Universe [PZ] [lost, but considering how powerful Rogol is...]
...among other details [high TP resistance, tanking Henshaw/Eradicator/Enchantress' simultaneous attack etc.]. This is, quite literally, his average, as it's all his appearances, so the "CV" is stellar.
To play devil's advocate, I guess he hasn't shown enough variance/utility in his powerset [i.e. beyond ftl flight, ridiculously strong, fast, durable and HV], which is a fair argument, so I can see where it's coming from. It does seem weird to have him below some of the people there, though.

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Black Hand? Too difficult to put on the list?

Like Phil said, Zod should def HH, his record after nu52 is just too good. Hank, Eradicator, Kara, Kyle, Hal, Jonn. He's like the Black Adam of post flashpoint just insanely good fight record
Who cares if he lost to Rogol (the fight shook the phantom zone, characters who shook the galaxy has been mentioned to be skyfather, and Phantom zone is universal in size)

Regarding Citizen Steel, What LH do you guys think can knock down freakin Gog?

I'm gonna mention some street level just because the street tier is so thin
Batwoman- LS
Connor Hawke- HS
Shado-MS
Arrowette-MS
Speedy-LS
Ultimate Hawkeye-HS
Ultimate Cap-There's argument to made he's LM, so what do you guys think?
Maverick-MS
Toad-HS