Faora vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by quanchi112
Her complex actions in the clips I provided. Faora just rushes him she shows no true complex movements that require super skill just speed and strength.

She noted him protecting others puts him at a disadvantage yet despite thatshe never defeated him. He was not even hurt. Who cares?

Again, you did not provide any clips showing WW fighting h2h against any opponent as dangerous as Superman. So I don't know what clips you're referring to. Fighting skill with a sword does not prove fighting skill in h2h. Similarly, beating up humans far below her physicality doesn't prove that she's more skilled than Faora.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Again, you did not provide any clips showing WW fighting h2h against any opponent as dangerous as Superman. So I don't know what clips you're referring to. Fighting skill with a sword does not prove fighting skill in h2h. Similarly, beating up humans far below her physicality doesn't prove that she's more skilled than Faora.

That shows her skill. She has the power to hurt Faora. Do you think she does not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is not dangerous since he held back, protected others so he was more vulnerable, is less skilled, and she could not win with a two to one advantage. That is embarrassing tbh. WW has the strength to tag Superman, the superspeed to keep up, and durability to withstand her attacks.

That shows her skill. She has the power to hurt Faora. Do you think she does not?

Strength, speed and power is not the same as fighting skill. You claimed WW was more skilled than Faora in h2h. Please. Post. Proof.

Your inability to post a clip to back up your claims is very telling.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Strength, speed and power is not the same as fighting skill. You claimed WW was more skilled than Faora in h2h. Please. Post. Proof.

Your inability to post a clip to back up your claims is very telling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I showed you her performing complex movements. Faora simply punched humans. She was going to take on a high ranking officer who had a knife. Faora displayed no great skill just speed and basic attacks.

Performing complex movements does not equate to her being more skilled than Faora. Capoeira fighters perform complex movements, doesn't mean they're automatically more skilled than Muay Thai fighters.

As for Faora's skill, it's clear to me now that you didn't even bother watching the clip I posted. What use is debating with you if you don't even watch the vids I provide?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Performing complex movements does not equate to her being more skilled than Faora. Capoeira fighters perform complex movements, doesn't mean they're automatically more skilled than Muay Thai fighters.

As for Faora's skill, it's clear to me now that you didn't even bother watching the clip I posted. What use is debating with you if you don't even watch the vids I provide?

She has more skill than Superman but less than the skill shown by WW. We see Faora react to humans with speed. WW shows skill and speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When Faora does not show skill but instead superspeed then yes WW is the more skilled combatant. Complex movements performed in the heat of combat is skill.

She has more skill than Superman but less than the skill shown by WW. We see Faora react to humans with speed. WW shows skill and speed.

Dude, stop talking and start showing. Doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself, you have to provide vid to back up your claim otherwise it's useless. Now, are you going to post a vid or not?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Tbf Kryptonians in MoS weren't portrayed to be nearly as fast as BvS or JL Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Imo, Faora was.
Just because there is no flash in Mos does not mean that the portrayal wasn't there.

If Flash was in Mos then he would be shown as slightly faster.
At best I would say Faora and WW are peers in speed (the advantage one has over the other is not significant).

Prove that Faora was portrayed as having JL Superman level speed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that Faora was portrayed as having JL Superman level speed.

AND

Faora and Clark are the same species with the same powerset. She displayed faster speed than Clark at times. They were portrayed as peers in speed. So whatever Clark does speedwise then she is always a peer (unless Clark receives an outside amp). Doesn't mean she is as fast as him, but that she's in the vicinity of his speed.

How does that prove that MoS portayed her as JL Superman level in speed, which was your claim.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does that prove that MoS portayed her as JL Superman level in speed, which was your claim.

It portrayed her as Superman's peer in speed ALWAYS. Which movie is irrelevant unless there was an outside amp.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, stop talking and start showing. Doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself, you have to provide vid to back up your claim otherwise it's useless. Now, are you going to post a vid or not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Already provided clips of her fighting hand to hand which shows more skill against humans than Faora demonstrated.

Yeah, you showed her fighting h2h against humans. That's nowhere near as impressive as fighting and dominating Superman. Again, you prove that you didn't bother watching the vid I posted.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, you showed her fighting h2h against humans. That's nowhere near as impressive as fighting and dominating Superman. Again, you prove that you didn't bother watching the vid I posted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Faora fought humans with no skill. She has more impressive skill feats than Faora. Bottom line. As I said she had help and he was protecting innocents. He was also inexperienced at fighting.

Did you or did you not watch the vid I posted?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Did you or did you not watch the vid I posted?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes. Superman is distracted by the manager at ihop who happened to be a childhood bully iirc and she even says he is weak because he is unsure of himself. His morality is his weakness too which she specifically says is hurting him in their confrontation.

Do you think the humans Diana fought in the alley could have defeated Superman in the iHop scene?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you think the humans Diana fought in the alley could have defeated Superman in the iHop scene?

Originally posted by h1a8
It portrayed her as Superman's peer in speed ALWAYS. Which movie is irrelevant unless there was an outside amp.

No, by feats JL Superman is far faster than MOS Superman. Stop trying to pass off your opinion as fact. I'd be more than happy to get a mod ruling. Loser gets banned for 6 months, you game?

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, by feats JL Superman is far faster than MOS Superman. Stop trying to pass off your opinion as fact. I'd be more than happy to get a mod ruling. Loser gets banned for 6 months, you game?

They are the same character. Just because a character has a better feat in one movie than in another doesn't make them different characters.

We use direct comparisons. If a character A is portrayed as being stronger than character B then character A is stronger than character B no matter what feats character B feat has.

The exception is an external amp.