Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Faora fighting an inexperienced Superman who is fearful of bystanders being hurt and lacking confidence shows this is quite frankly pitiful.
You didn't answer my question. Do you think those human thugs WW fought could have defeated Superman in that iHop scene?
Originally posted by h1a8
They are the same character. Just because a character has a better feat in one movie than in another doesn't make them different characters.We use direct comparisons. If a character A is portrayed as being stronger than character B then character A is stronger than character B no matter what feats character B feat has.
The exception is an external amp.
Do you accept my challenge?
Originally posted by h1a8
They are the same character. Just because a character has a better feat in one movie than in another doesn't make them different characters.
In half of MOS Clark couldn't even fly. In the next film he's shifting the earth's mantle.
Characters evolve, get better, stronger, faster.
The First Avenger Cap and Civil War Cap are different animals. Did Cap do alot of krav maga in 1940s Germany?
Originally posted by Psychotron
There is zero indication that Superman got stronger between MoS and JL. He was already doing crazy shit like overpowering a singularity and the World Engine while depowered in MoS.
There is no indication or amp we know of that Superman received.
That's like saying that Thor in Avengers is stronger than Thor in his first movie because he had better feats in avengers. But they are the same character.
Originally posted by Silent Master
There is 100% proof that JL Superman has better speed feats than MoS Superman.
Assuming that's true then they are still the same character.
How can you say that JL Superman is faster than MoS Superman when JL Superman received no amps?
If a character plays in multiple movies then there will be 1 movie where they have the most impressive feat. Does that mean the two movies are portraying different characters?
If Kurse is shown to be stronger than Thor in a movie where Thor has worst strength feats then that does not mean that Kurse is not stronger than Thor in a movie where he had better strength feats without receiving an amp.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Doesn't matter if they are the same character, their feats are all that matter. if MoS Superman has no feats of using JL level superspeed. then MoS Superman didn't use JL level superspeed. Thus Faora keeping up with MoS doesn't prove she had JL level speed.
That's like saying that if Dark World movie Thor didn't use Avenger Thor level strength then Kurse being as strong or stronger than Thor in Dark world does not prove that Kurse has Thor avenger level strength.
Your logic can be applied in many situations and movies.
Faora is a Kryptonian who was portrayed to be as fast or faster than Superman. She automatically scales to any movie feat Superman has by portrayal. Unless Superman received some amp.
And please quantify Superman's speed in JL and Faora s speed in MoS to verify that JL Superman was shown faster.
Originally posted by FrothByteNo, where on earth are you even getting this from. I am saying she has demonstrated skill from his earliest training in her own film while Faora taking advantage of a situation against a relatively inexperienced hero who not only has confidence issues he has to protect innocents. She failed to beat him with all these advantages and a tag partner.
So you're saying those 4 human thugs could beat an inexperienced Superman who's protecting civilians?
Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't get to apply JL Superman's speed feats to MoS Faora.
I'm stating that she is peers to SUPERMAN, BY PORTRAYALS, in speed unless you can show that Superman somehow received an AMP later on.