I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.
Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?
He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.
In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.
Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?
He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.
In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.
Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.
He has also fought superpowered beings and showed decent skills (backflips).
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?
He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.
In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.
Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm curious, too.Cdtm posted it, so he probably ignored all context and just masturbated to Superman.
So I take it he was amped, not depowered. Unless proven otherwise by someone credible.
He had a force field.
Strong enough to take a hit or two from Mammoth, before shorting out.
Other then that, no powers at all.
He also overloaded Psi-Phon, by making him force feed Dreadnaut, which knocked PP out of it. It wasn't made clear Dreadnaut himself was affected though..
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Hey guys, just throwing a little common sense in this thread. If Superman is fighting superhuman people then he probably isn't 100% powerless human now is he? Unless every human being can fight super human beings and do all kinds of crazy s*** then he's probably not 100% de powered
Meh, 100% 'human' in comics means very little - Batman, after all, is 100% human. Captain America is the supposedly the 'peak' of human evolution etc etc.
Karate Kid is supposedly human, too.
But Karate Kid/batman/daredevil all achieve their feats through years of training/skill etc.
So let's say this scenario happens...A "depowered, 100% human clark rips darkseid (the real deal, not an avatar) right in half like Sentry/Ares.
Do we still say that he is depowered? And from every depowered fight on he is operating at those levels. Let me ask it a different way.
If the OP says 100% human, I assume they automatically are not allowed to do superhuman shit, like they are literally limited to normal human level shenanigans as otherwise that would defeat the purpose.
Same for Thor, I would assume he went down to a 100% human physiology and not weigh as much as a freaking Siberian Tiger because Tigers and that kind of dense bone/muscle structure are 100% not human. He should lose his Asgardian physiology if he the OP makes him human. A 700lb man hitting you would kill you instantly.