Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they're one shot characters with no feats, why is this impressive
Originally posted by abhilegend
Owlman has long been established moron.
Alberto got embarrassed (again) and disappeared from this thread. 😂 moron thinks hulk has unlimited speed based on anger and strength.
Superman is a skilled fighter. Thor might have more brawling type of experience but Superman is a better and more skilled fighter.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm referring to KK destroying glaciers with a kick or stopping earthquakes with his feet etc, whilst being 'human'.Or chucking someone into another solar system.
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.
Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.
Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..
Originally posted by cdtmI’m not familiar with KK but isn’t his power basically finding and hitting spots that causes most damage?
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.
Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..
Originally posted by Diesldude
I’m not familiar with KK but isn’t his power basically finding and hitting spots that causes most damage?
Weak points are part of it, but that wouldn't explain putting multiple planet towing Pre Crisis Superboy in a stranglehold and half chicken wing and using him as a human shield. Nor kicking down at the pavement, and causing a shockwave that cancels out Major Disaster's earthquake.
Val's martian arts are essentially "magic".
Originally posted by cdtm
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.
Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..
I agree with you. KK breaks glaciers.
People arguing Batman beats him, are essentially ignoring his opponent can break glaciers.
One can perhaps argue a case that Batman can tank glacier level punches, but I don't really see those argument being made. People just seem to ignore that Batman is blocking punches from a guy that breaks things Batman a peak human never should.
This is a common problem as an Iron Fist fan, and a pet peeve of mine.
"Iron Fist sunk a Helicarrier with a chop, can effectively hit that hard with his fastest jab, and is quick enough to catch a bullet, so of COURSE Daredevil would beat him".
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm referring to KK destroying glaciers with a kick or stopping earthquakes with his feet etc, whilst being 'human'.Or chucking someone into another solar system.
I know, lol.
I just like to make sure to remind everyone that he has no showings against martial artists.
Prowler would cum inside his ass and Prowler is only a green belt.
Originally posted by DiesldudeSuperman is NOT a skilled fighter. Plowing a field as a youth and running around a farm then working in a news room makes you a skilled fighter??? Now look at Batman and Wonder Woman.
Alberto got embarrassed (again) and disappeared from this thread. 😂 moron thinks hulk has unlimited speed based on anger and strength.Superman is a skilled fighter. Thor might have more brawling type of experience but Superman is a better and more skilled fighter.
I dont think JBL actually knows what hes typing.
I mean Superman is a "skilled warrior/fighter" literally spelled out in so many comics
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3
Originally posted by cdtm
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.
Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..
Batman is just magic, as you would say. Seeing as Jon Kent has been getting a lot of love lately....
A younger Jon? Sure. But his powers are being pushed to the limit, and you can see him hurting Superman with his punches, even drawing blood.
And Batman was tanking those same punches.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman is just magic, as you would say. Seeing as Jon Kent has been getting a lot of love lately....A younger Jon? Sure. But his powers are being pushed to the limit, and you can see him hurting Superman with his punches, even drawing blood.
And Batman was tanking those same punches.
A martial arts pose indicates he didn't "tank" it.
Same as Psylocke didn't tank several punches from Rogue.
It may look like blocking, but it's actually more like anticipating strikes, redirecting, using one's momentum against him and such shit.
Same with KK's "glacier destroying" blow --- another crazy skill showing, mistaken for a power showing.
Also, glaciers don't hit back... and just because KK can find a weak spot in inanimate things, doesn't automatically mean he can exploit fighting styles.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998He's a good fighter, but he's not skilled. He is NOT on the level of ... Thor, Batman, WW, Gladiator, wolverine, etc.
I dont think JBL actually knows what hes typing.
I mean Superman is a "skilled warrior/fighter" literally spelled out in so many comics
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3
Originally posted by JBLExcept that wasnt my point and the comics said otherwise.
He's a good fighter, but he's not skilled. He is NOT on the level of ... Thor, Batman, WW, Gladiator, wolverine, etc.
Originally posted by JBL
Superman is NOT a skilled fighter.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998The characters I mentioned are highly skilled. Superman is not in their class.
Except that wasnt my point and the comics said otherwise.
"A highly skilled warrior, This Superman"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3