Headbutt challenge: Superman vs. Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Psychotron
What's the fallacy, exactly? I don't care what you want to call it, the beam increased gravity on screen.

Not according to feats.

Giving attributes without movie backup nor scientific backup.

Going through a Black hole in deep space》》》》》》anything Superman has ever dream about.

Originally posted by SquallX
That’s so damn idiotic. Battleships doesn’t always mean more powerful than scientific vessels, especially when those so called scientific vessels warps space to travel the Universe.

Does magical gems really have the powers to wipe the Universe?

Then go ahead and prove it.

Thanos' ship also warps it, yet Zod'z ship isn't a battle station.

What?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Giving attributes without movie backup nor scientific backup.

Going through a Black hole in deep space》》》》》》anything Superman has ever dream about.

Except we saw the gravity effect on screen.

Too bad for you that Superman dealt with a black hole in MoS.

We certainly saw how it affected Lois.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Except we saw the gravity effect on screen.

Too bad for you that Superman dealt with a black hole in MoS.

By affecting the Earth's core, not by being gravity itself.

A small Black Hole insignificant to the likes of the one Marvel went through. Keep up with the fallacies, meanwhile Marvel is beating Superman all over the place 👆

Originally posted by FrothByte
I rewatched their fight, can't find the scene you're describing. Please post a link.

check 2:59

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You can call it as you wish, doesn't mean that's what it is.

Black hole>>>>>> Singularity

Thor's durability and strength feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diana.

I honestly find it hilarious that you fail to realize that the MCU is in a another level of strength!

[B]Hulk moving Surtur>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anything Superman has ever portrayed.

I suggest you hit the cinema sometime [/B]

Thor's durability feats being greater than WWs is irrelevant. It's about whether Thor's relevant durability feats are greater than Superman's, since that is who was headbutt by WW headbutt.

Also WW headbutt to Superman can be seen as a greater strength feat than any of Thor's feats. Therefore she can be stronger than him by that very feat.

Hulk moving Surtur? You how big Hulk was in comparison to Surtur? Hulks downward momentum did that. Otherwise explain why all other hits on Surtur didn't do anything? Not even make him flinch. Hulk was hitting Surtur with all his might and did not move him a millimeter.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also WW headbutt to Superman can be seen as a greater strength feat than any of Thor's feats. Therefore she can be stronger than him by that very feat.

LOL!!!!!!

Originally posted by h1a8
check 2:59

Still don't see it. You claimed Clark was less affected by Namek's punch than Diana's headbutt. Well, pretty sure getting hit strong enough to have your torso smack on the ground and break concrete is not being "less bothered" than simply getting your head snapped back.

WW headbutt feat is better than all of Thors feats? You never ceases to surprise me

Originally posted by Silent Master
We certainly saw how it affected Lois.

That’s bullshit. It’s called plot for a reason.

Widow took on Midnight, blocked her punches.

This also the same Widow that was able to outmaneuver a raging Hulk.

She all that due to plot, just like Lois did.

It's what the movie showed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's what the movie showed.

So by your logic, Widow is stronger than Midnight then, faster than an enrage Hulk, and multitude of the shits she did that shouldn’t be possible for a normal human?

I'll happily BZ you on whether or not Lois was injured by the singularity.

Originally posted by SquallX
That’s bullshit. It’s called plot for a reason.

Widow took on Midnight, blocked her punches.

This also the same Widow that was able to outmaneuver a raging Hulk.

She all that due to plot, just like Lois did.

To be fair, none of us ever took Proxima seriously in these vs matches specifically because she was beat up by a bunch of humans (not Widow alone). In comparison, many posters here like using the singularity/blackhole feat as proof of Superman's strength and toughness despite Lois not being harmed by it. So it's not actually an equal comparison.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Still don't see it. You claimed Clark was less affected by Namek's punch than Diana's headbutt. Well, pretty sure getting hit strong enough to have your torso smack on the ground and break concrete is not being "less bothered" than simply getting your head snapped back.

Originally posted by h1a8
Look at Superman's face after WW headbutts him. He is jarred significantly. Superman didn't miss a beat when Namek punched him.
It’'s easy to see that WW affected Superman more than Namek did.

Only an idiot would think that getting your head snapped back by a shot (without injury) is somehow more jarring than a shot to the face that knocks you down strong enough to smash against the ground.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Only an idiot would think that getting your head snapped back by a shot (without injury) is somehow more jarring than a shot to the face that knocks you down strong enough to smash against the ground.

Facial expression, big clues. Think! Look at Superman's eyes and how long he had them closed. It’s common sense WE affected him more than Namek did. Namek punch didnt do jack

Originally posted by h1a8
Facial expression, big clues. Think! Look at Superman's eyes and how long he had them closed. It’s common sense WE affected him more than Namek did. Namek punch didnt do jack

One day you'll learn a little bit about fighting, then you'll realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

Originally posted by Surtur
The fact Superman survived at all exposure that up close to the beam is a huge feat.

Hmmm, I agree it was bigger and probably had better guns. What's that got to do with flying through it? I'm not aware that either ship has much in the way of durability feats. What reason do you have to say the hull of the ship Thanos had would be more difficult to fly through?

Naw, the terraformer was planet busting level, Superman swam through the Death Star laser.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor's durability feats being greater than WWs is irrelevant. It's about whether Thor's relevant durability feats are greater than Superman's, since that is who was headbutt by WW headbutt.

Also WW headbutt to Superman can be seen as a greater strength feat than any of Thor's feats. Therefore she can be stronger than him by that very feat.

Hulk moving Surtur? You how big Hulk was in comparison to Surtur? Hulks downward momentum did that. Otherwise explain why all other hits on Surtur didn't do anything? Not even make him flinch. Hulk was hitting Surtur with all his might and did not move him a millimeter.

What a massive fallacy.

Hulk swaying Surtur is a greater strength feat than any strength feat portrayed by JL Superman, regardless of how it happened.

Hulk's strength 》Superman. We debate based on movie feats, and Hulk's got the greater here.