Originally posted by Darth Thor
Surely that would be dependent on upper body strength as well.Also Thor has smacked Hulk around without a problem. But clearly cant leap the way Hulk can.
Not really no. I mean, sure upper body strength plays a big part in a shoving match, but any accomplished wrestler will tell you a good deal of it comes from leg strength. Had Thanos not had leg strength to at least be in Hulk's strength range then he would have completely folded under Hulk's push.
As for Thor, we've seen him leap great distances during the escape from Sakaar. Maybe not as far as Hulk leaps but then I think it was clear that Thor was never quite as strong as Hulk.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Not really no. I mean, sure upper body strength plays a big part in a shoving match, but any accomplished wrestler will tell you a good deal of it comes from leg strength. Had Thanos not had leg strength to at least be in Hulk's strength range then he would have completely folded under Hulk's push.As for Thor, we've seen him leap great distances during the escape from Sakaar. Maybe not as far as Hulk leaps but then I think it was clear that Thor was never quite as strong as Hulk.
Thor and Valkyries leaps were every bit as impressive as Hilks except for the Surtur leap.
Thor flies,wtf would he jump around for?
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol. Why or how would a singularity choose not to hurt her? That is such reaching. Literally makes zero sense but ok.Anything to make sure Supes wins
I already explained this already.
Fact1: We know for a fact that a tremendous force was acting on Superman.
This is because
1) Superman is insanely strong
2) Superman was pulling against the force with all his might while straining and yelling.
3) The force was compromising Superman's physical integrity. We see his face on the verge of separating.
Fact2: Lois didn’t experience any force from the singularity.
In conclusion, either
1) Lois is insanely more durable than Superman
Or
2) The writer intended for Superman to block the effects of the singularity with his body (just like Superman did in the comics).
Originally posted by Psychotron
Thanos would be unable to overpower Hulk if his legs were weaker. All the power in the body comes from the legs, even punching power. Any real athlete would tell you that.
But yet Thanos can't leap the distance Hulk can.
The maximum frictional force on Hulks feet is equal to his weight times the coefficient of static friction (between 0.1 and 1.5). Therefore if Thanos weighs more than Hulk (especially with his armor on) and can exert more than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk then he can push Hulk back against Hulk's will no matter how strong Hulk is.
Originally posted by h1a8
But yet Thanos can't leap the distance Hulk can.The maximum frictional force on Hulks feet is equal to his weight times the coefficient of static friction (between 0.1 and 1.5). Therefore if Thanos weighs more than Hulk (especially with his armor on) and can exert more than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk then he can push Hulk back against Hulk's will no matter how strong Hulk is.
So? Jumping strength isn't the only measure of leg strength. Powerlifters can't jump like basketball players, doesn't mean their legs are weaker. Stop throwing red herrings around. Fact remains that if Thanos' legs were somehow massively weaker than Hulk's then he wouldn't have been able to stand his ground against Hulk.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So? Jumping strength isn't the only measure of leg strength. Powerlifters can't jump like basketball players, doesn't mean their legs are weaker. Stop throwing red herrings around. Fact remains that if Thanos' legs were somehow massively weaker than Hulk's then he wouldn't have been able to stand his ground against Hulk.
All of this is moot since Thanos can push Hulk back by simply weighing more than Hulk and being able to exert at least 1.5 times the weight of Hulk, no matter how strong Hulk is.
But to correct you, Powerlifters are heavier.
I studied the physics of jumping years ago. Distance covered is strongly and positively related to pressing strength. Correlation tests where done using a scale. Jumpers jumped off a scale. The final scale reading along with the the jumpers height (measured from a belt around their weight) was recorded.
I can predict anyone's jumping height (to within 10% error) simply by knowing
1) Their mass
2) maximum leg press strength
3) initial crouching distance (measure from a belt)
4) height (measured from a belt while on standing their tippy toes).
Originally posted by h1a8
All of this is moot since Thanos can push Hulk back by simply weighing more than Hulk and being able to exert at least 1.5 times the weight of Hulk, no matter how strong Hulk is.But to correct you, Powerlifters are heavier.
I studied the physics of jumping years ago. Distance covered is strongly and positively related to pressing strength. Correlation tests where done using a scale. Jumpers jumped off a scale. The final scale reading along with the the jumpers height (measured from a belt around their weight) was recorded.I can predict anyone's jumping height (to within 10% error) simply by knowing
1) Their mass
2) maximum leg press strength
3) initial crouching distance (measure from a belt)
4) height (measured from a belt while on standing their tippy toes).
No dumb dumb. Your weight and being able to exert 1.5x the weight of your opponent are not the only factors to consider in a shoving match. This statement is so darn stupid that I'm not even going to bother to explain why it's stupid. Treating a person's strength as a non-factor in a pushing contest is just plain dumb.
And if your theory about jumping is correct, what you're saying is that basketball players for sure have stronger legs than Muay Thai fighters or sprinters correct?
Originally posted by h1a8
But yet Thanos can't leap the distance Hulk can.The maximum frictional force on Hulks feet is equal to his weight times the coefficient of static friction (between 0.1 and 1.5). Therefore if Thanos weighs more than Hulk (especially with his armor on) and can exert more than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk then he can push Hulk back against Hulk's will no matter how strong Hulk is.
When has Thanos attempted to jump any serious distance though? He has space ships, why would he jump around?
The problem with your math is that in order to exert "more than than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk" he needs to have strong legs. You can't overpower someone with brute strength if you're missing your base (your legs).
Originally posted by h1a8
But yet Thanos can't leap the distance Hulk can.The maximum frictional force on Hulks feet is equal to his weight times the coefficient of static friction (between 0.1 and 1.5). Therefore if Thanos weighs more than Hulk (especially with his armor on) and can exert more than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk then he can push Hulk back against Hulk's will no matter how strong Hulk is.
Reality elludes you my friend.
Originally posted by Psychotron
When has Thanos attempted to jump any serious distance though? He has space ships, why would he jump around?The problem with your math is that in order to exert "more than than 1.5 times the weight of Hulk" he needs to have strong legs. You can't overpower someone with brute strength if you're missing your base (your legs).
You missed a key point : You must weigh more than Hulk
Thanos with armor could possibly weigh more than Hulk.
Hulk's weighs no more than a ton.
Thanos needs only to push with 2-3 tons. And Hulk could have 100 ton strength and still be pushed back.
Originally posted by h1a8
You missed a key point : You must weigh more than Hulk
Thanos with armor could possibly weigh more than Hulk.Hulk's weighs no more than a ton.
Thanos needs only to push with 2-3 tons. And Hulk could have 100 ton strength and still be pushed back.
Based on your logic, a 300-pound Mariusz Pudzianowski would be just as easy to push around as a 300-pound obese woman.
Do you see how dumb that logic is?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Thanos would be unable to overpower Hulk if his legs were weaker. All the power in the body comes from the legs, even punching power. Any real athlete would tell you that.
This, y'all think your leg muscles stay static or something while the rest of your body is exerting force? Ridiculous. And what proof do any of you have that Thanks can't jump like the Hulk? Y'all are literally making up your own head Canon just because he didn't jump.
Originally posted by h1a8
You missed a key point : You must weigh more than Hulk
Thanos with armor could possibly weigh more than Hulk.Hulk's weighs no more than a ton.
Thanos needs only to push with 2-3 tons. And Hulk could have 100 ton strength and still be pushed back.
Why would Thanos weigh more when Hulk is visibly larger than him?
Also, Hulk stopping the Leviathan, which weighs thousands of tons, proves that weight is irrelevant in this discussion. Thanos is simply stronger and that extends to his lower body.
Originally posted by PsychotronHulk got pushed back by the leviathan. Which proves my point.
Why would Thanos weigh more when Hulk is visibly larger than him?Also, Hulk stopping the Leviathan, which weighs thousands of tons, proves that weight is irrelevant in this discussion. Thanos is simply stronger and that extends to his lower body.
Wrong. Thanos can't leap like the Hulk, and therefore his legs aren't as strong.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Based on your logic, a 300-pound Mariusz Pudzianowski would be just as easy to push around as a 300-pound obese woman.Do you see how dumb that logic is?
That doesn't destroy my point at all. You are changing the argument.
Im telling you once a HEAVIER person pushes a lighter person with more than 1.5 times that persons weight then the heavier person will go back no matter how strong they are. They could have billion ton strength and still be pushed back. Newton’s third law.
Originally posted by h1a8
That doesn't destroy my point at all. You are changing the argument.
Im telling you once a HEAVIER person pushes a lighter person with more than 1.5 times that persons weight then the heavier person will go back no matter how strong they are. They could have billion ton strength and still be pushed back. Newton’s third law.
So you're saying a 330 pound obese woman can push back a 300 pound Mariusz Pudzianowski right?