Captain Marvel vs. Justice League

Originally posted by FrothByte
If Flash tries to blitz Thor or CM he'll just break his hands. Superman can probably land a punch on Thor before he can put up his lightning cloak, after that it's going to be tricky for Supes to land a hit without getting zapped. Diana has almost zero feats of actually blitzing a skilled fighter, so we can't assign her feats that she doesn't have.

Flash can take out Strange at the very least, giving Superman and Diana the opportunity to deal with Thor and Carol.

Thor's anemic lightning cloak won't do jack to Superman. What's its best feat, failing to take out the big green jobber Hulk? Killing some random undead? He didn't use it once he got Stormbreaker anyway, so I don't know why you think he'll immediately use here. And I really can't see what stops Superman from swiping Stormbreaker from Thor and going ham with it. It's not exactly out of character for him.

Lmao, so now characters with legit super speed feats need extra feats to prove they can blitz characters without super speed? What a joke.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The tectonic plate thing is not usable as we have no idea how he does it, and Thor's star feat even on a low end estimate dwarfs anything that Superman actually did on screen.

How many ways are there to move a techtonic plate? Especially for a guy like Superman. It happened and we have to take it into account.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂

Neutron star>>>>>>>>>>Nuke
Real Black Hole>>>>>>>>>Small Singularity

Hulk moving Surtur>>>>>>>>>>>Superman

Thanos/Carol>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk

Come on Psychotron, you are really with your back on the wall just now.
Who said that Strange doesn't have the Time Stone?

The Neutron star feat is overhyped as all hell. First of all, the star was cold, so it was far less powerful than a normal Neutron star. Second, Thor lasted only a few seconds and was about to die. He had to be saved by Stormbreaker.

Feel free to explain why one singularity is better than another. I'll wait.

Good thing Hulk never did that. Hulk has jobbed to Iron Man, Hammerless Thor, Fenris, Thanos, etc, however. He's weak. Hell, he was almost killed by Chitauri weapons that Captain America tanked. Let me put it this way. Hulk was being crushed to death by the Avengers base, while Superman effortlessly carried a commie block. That feat alone makes Superman several dozen times stronger than Hulk. Moving a tectonic plate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving Surtur by the way.

Lmao. Is that why you're doing everything in your power to shift the conversation away from Superman's INSANE speed advantage? You are so sad.

The infinity stones were destroyed by Thanos, genius. How would Strange use the Time Stone if it was atomized?

Originally posted by h1a8
The missile wasnt moving at Mach 20 unless you assume CM was flying backwards when about to make contact.

Having your sight blurred after making contact is irrelevant to reactions. A blind person can push something after they make contact.

There were seconds elapsed between events as shown in screen. Anything above a second (or 0.2 second) is worst than human level.

Lol, you have no idea what you are taking just about now.

Research on ballistic missiles, then come back here.

Originally posted by Psychotron

The Neutron star feat is overhyped as all hell. First of all, the star was cold, so it was far less powerful than a normal Neutron star. Second, Thor lasted only a few seconds and was about to die. He had to be saved by Stormbreaker.

Feel free to explain why one singularity is better than another. I'll wait.

Good thing Hulk never did that. Hulk has jobbed to Iron Man, Hammerless Thor, Fenris, Thanos, etc, however. He's weak. Hell, he was almost killed by Chitauri weapons that Captain America tanked. Let me put it this way. Hulk was being crushed to death by the Avengers base, while Superman effortlessly carried a commie block. That feat alone makes Superman several dozen times stronger than Hulk. Moving a tectonic plate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving Surtur by the way.

Lmao. Is that why you're doing everything in your power to shift the conversation away from Superman's INSANE speed advantage? You are so sad.

The infinity stones were destroyed by Thanos, genius. How would Strange use the Time Stone if it was atomized?

Even a cold star>>>>>> nuke!!! Stop the lowballing man! You are clearly inventing stuff now! Superman was also killed! If not for the sun, he would have remained dead!

Are you serious just about now!? You do know that there are different sizes of black holes right? The singularity created in Metropolis was a germ in comparison to normal Black Holes.

A normal black hole would have the entire Earth swallowed, along with the entire Solar System!

BS! You are just lowballing now, using other feats to downplay the Surtur feat. If you will begin implementing Quanchi level techniques, then I can say that Superman was defeated by a low tier Batman, who is far inferior to the likes of Tony or IM.

Stop trolling!

Superman would be like a fly attacking a human. Sure, the human will most likely miss many shots, but sooner or later, the fly will be smashed! Your Kryptonian lacks the power.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Flash can take out Strange at the very least, giving Superman and Diana the opportunity to deal with Thor and Carol.

Thor's anemic lightning cloak won't do jack to Superman. What's its best feat, failing to take out the big green jobber Hulk? Killing some random undead? He didn't use it once he got Stormbreaker anyway, so I don't know why you think he'll immediately use here. And I really can't see what stops Superman from swiping Stormbreaker from Thor and going ham with it. It's not exactly out of character for him.

Lmao, so now characters with legit super speed feats need extra feats to prove they can blitz characters without super speed? What a joke.

Ok, hold up. You're saying Superman can probably swipe Stormbreaker from Thor and use it on him, even though Superman has never had any feat of outright grabbing a weapon from his opponent right at the start. Then you're also claiming that WW can blitz the MCU team and cut them to shreds despite her never having any feats of doing so. And yet you're unwilling to acknowledge Thor using his lightning cloak just because he only used it once?

Jeeze dude, can you be any more biased?

Besides, any energy attack that's strong enough to floor Hulk is not something that Superman can just shrug off.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, you have no idea what you are taking just about now.

Research on ballistic missiles, then come back here.

What is shown >>>>> your opinion

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok, hold up. You're saying Superman can probably swipe Stormbreaker from Thor and use it on him, even though Superman has never had any feat of outright grabbing a weapon from his opponent right at the start. Then you're also claiming that WW can blitz the MCU team and cut them to shreds despite her never having any feats of doing so. And yet you're unwilling to acknowledge Thor using his lightning cloak just because he only used it once?

Jeeze dude, can you be any more biased?

Besides, any energy attack that's strong enough to floor Hulk is not something that Superman can just shrug off.

The cloak is not the same as Thor expelling a particular bolt at an opponent.
Superman is more durable than Hulk. And according to you the chest is not the face. So lightning to Hulk's chest would affected him less and therefore Superman even lesser.

Superman does not need to take SB away. Thor would be a statue.

Originally posted by h1a8
The cloak is not the same as Thor expelling a particular bolt at an opponent.
Superman is more durable than Hulk. And according to you the chest is not the face. So lightning to Hulk's chest would affected him less and therefore Superman even lesser.

Superman does not need to take SB away. Thor would be a statue.

Err... the lightning cloak was indeed blasting out bolts of lightning at enemies... or did you not watch the movie? Granted, they weren't big bolts of lightning but then again neither was the bolt that Thor used on Hulk. And yes, getting hit on the chest is different from a hit in the face. What's your point? It's not like Thor isn't allowed to hit Superman in the face.

And maybe Superman is more durable than the Hulk... maybe not. If it is, it's not by such a large margin that Superman can simply shrug off hits that floor Hulk. If you want to claim otherwise, feel free to prove it.

Originally posted by h1a8
These are alien fictional missiles.

What is shown >>>>> your opinion

Yeah, which are far superior to Earthly ones.

Science》》》》h1's head.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Even a cold star>>>>>> nuke!!! Stop the lowballing man! You are clearly inventing stuff now! Superman was also killed! If not for the sun, he would have remained dead!

Are you serious just about now!? You do know that there are different sizes of black holes right? The singularity created in Metropolis was a germ in comparison to normal Black Holes.

A normal black hole would have the entire Earth swallowed, along with the entire Solar System!

BS! You are just lowballing now, using other feats to downplay the Surtur feat. If you will begin implementing Quanchi level techniques, then I can say that Superman was defeated by a low tier Batman, who is far inferior to the likes of Tony or IM.

Stop trolling!

[B]Superman would be like a fly attacking a human. Sure, the human will most likely miss many shots, but sooner or later, the fly will be smashed! Your Kryptonian lacks the power. [/B]

First of all, a cold star produces nothing, so that's objectively wrong. Second Superman wasn't dead. He was injured and healed by the Sun much like Thor was healed by Stormbreaker. If all it took to resurrect Superman was some sunlight they wouldn't have needed to use a motherbox in JL. Think before you post.

It doesn't matter. Even a small black hole would consume the Earth. Their gravity is equally inescapable in real life once you pass the event horizon.

Hulk was not depowered when he jobbed to those people, or when he was getting crushed by the Avengers building, while Superman was depowered by Kryptonite when he fought Batman. This is the same argument Quan made, and yet, you accuse me of debating like him? Ironic.

Take your own advice.

Except this fly is much stronger than the human in your analogy by feats. Moving tectonic plates > anything Thanos or Carol have ever done. Also, it can fly faster than the human can perceive. The only thing getting smashed right now is your argument.

Originally posted by Impediment
An Easter egg newspaper article/reference isn't a valid screen feat. C'mon, guys. You should know by now that only valid onscreen feats are canon here as to avoid cluster f*cks like this one happening in here.

If it's not on the screen it doesn't mean shit. 👆

The article was on the screen. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Impediment
An Easter egg newspaper article/reference isn't a valid screen feat. C'mon, guys. You should know by now that only valid onscreen feats are canon here as to avoid cluster f*cks like this one happening in here.

If it's not on the screen it doesn't mean shit. 👆

You're still coping, I see.

Originally posted by Impediment
An Easter egg newspaper article/reference isn't a valid screen feat. C'mon, guys. You should know by now that only valid onscreen feats are canon here as to avoid cluster f*cks like this one happening in here.

If it's not on the screen it doesn't mean shit. 👆

Still spamming?

Still ignoring a mod ruling?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Err... the lightning cloak was indeed blasting out bolts of lightning at enemies... or did you not watch the movie? Granted, they weren't big bolts of lightning but then again neither was the bolt that Thor used on Hulk. And yes, getting hit on the chest is different from a hit in the face. What's your point? It's not like Thor isn't allowed to hit Superman in the face.

And maybe Superman is more durable than the Hulk... maybe not. If it is, it's not by such a large margin that Superman can simply shrug off hits that floor Hulk. If you want to claim otherwise, feel free to prove it.

Thor's cloak (this version will not use it) will most likely not hit Superman in the face, but rather the chest. Even if it does then it won't affect him much. Imo, Hulk being somewhat affected by the lightning is a low showing.

Like I said, lightning doesn't bypass durability. Superman's durability feats are enough to say Thor's cloak lightning won't do anything significant.

But all of this is irrelevant since Superman's and WW's speed and perceptions make this an easy win.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, which are far superior to Earthly ones.

Science》》》》h1's head.

As far as explosive yield? Maybe.

But what does that have to do with speed?
What we see >>>>> what you want to be

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor's cloak (this version will not use it) will most likely not hit Superman in the face, but rather the chest. Even if it does then it won't affect him much. Imo, Hulk being somewhat affected by the lightning is a low showing.

Like I said, lightning doesn't bypass durability. Superman's durability feats are enough to say Thor's cloak lightning won't do anything significant.

But all of this is irrelevant since Superman's and WW's speed and perceptions make this an easy win.

Sorry dude, your opinion doesn't trump actual feats seen on screen. LOL at your arrogance at thinking you can dictate that this version of Thor won't use the lightning cloak or dictate that it will not hit Superman in the face.

What feats do you have of Superman shrugging off an energy attack?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sorry dude, your opinion doesn't trump actual feats seen on screen. LOL at your arrogance at thinking you can dictate that this version of Thor won't use the lightning cloak or dictate that it will not hit Superman in the face.

What feats do you have of Superman shrugging off an energy attack?

Thor only used the cloak since he was hammerless. One gaining the hammers back he didn't use the cloak or even thought about it again.

These aren't fan controlled characters. If you want to debate that way then we can. Just say the word.

Superman normal durability feats are enough since lightning doesnt bypass durability. The more durable an object then the more resistant against lightning it is, without being damaged.

In particular Superman survived a nuke (although it injured him). That shitty ass cloak lightning is a speck of dust compared to that.