lol kal was using force vision to temp stop galaxy coming at him in super speed, but okt who was only hauling stars around has more raw power,
😂 ok thorbag
not to mention Kal has magic immunity too, this thread is gold
and yes magic immunity means he is immune to OKT's attacks
remember how prime shrugs off black adam and mordru?
that's exactly what's happening here
Originally posted by Dareangel
but how strong and useful in combat are those powers? failed to stop a charging galaxy. needed help from green lantern to contain solaris. those powers didnt help him against the else man. they didnt help him when he got one shotted by ultra man or when he got his ass kicked by batman 1 million. where were all his uber senses and perceptions or what ever when ultraman beamed his ass into the dirt? overall this is the comic book VS forum and we ask how well a specific character can fight. when it comes to thinking fast and tracking down, kal kent is awesome. when it comes to fighting someone, this guy gets his ass handed to him. his cool exotic powers are not so useful in combat as presented on panel.
Erm I think you are misremembering some of those events.
He didn't need GL's help - it was the other way around. And you realise it's a bit of double standards, right?
He needed help to stop an entire galaxy - it's a low showing for him
Kyle needed help to contain Solaris - it's a low showing for....Superman? Weird.
Anyway, he also restrained Hourman 1 Million.
Overall this is a comic book VS forum where PIS is ignored.
Originally posted by MrMind
I dunno why you keep bringing up the ultraman showings, kal was depowered without sunlight,
comic 101, context, learn themkal isn't fighting a galaxy here, he's fighting merely 2 thors
show the evidence that he was depowered. it was never stated on panel that he is depowered and in the 1 million arc it was stated it takes 2 days for him to start losing powers. yeah, context, use it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Being immune to magic doesnt mean he's immune to OKT attacks.TP? I mentioned durability... TP could be a way to circumvent durability i guess. But not sure on his tp stuff.
I thought so.
So OKT doesn't have the showings for TP resistance. I wasn't sure why you mentioned durability, mainly because it would be useless.
Originally posted by MrMind
lol kal was using force vision to temp stop galaxy coming at him in super speed, but okt who was only hauling stars around has more raw power,😂 ok thorbag
not to mention Kal has magic immunity too, this thread is gold
and yes magic immunity means he is immune to OKT's attacks
remember how prime shrugs off black adam and mordru?
that's exactly what's happening here
your logic is amazing, i question kal kents statues, so i must be a thor fanboy. my man you are like them crazy politicians with this "you are either with me or against me" thing.
he didnt temp stop anything. he was trying to stop a galaxy but he couldnt. failed. means its not within his powers.
if you will use reading comprehension, and actually read my posts, you will notice that i never stated who i think will win. my whole point is to question this statues people give kal kent.
as for magic imunity? sure it can help him. but it wont stop him from getting his ass kikced in H2H. once again, what are his fighting feats to suggest he is even a high herald?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm I think you are misremembering some of those events.He didn't need GL's help - it was the other way around. And you realise it's a bit of double standards, right?
He needed help to stop an entire galaxy - it's a low showing for him
Kyle needed help to contain Solaris - it's a low showing for....Superman? Weird.Anyway, he also restrained Hourman 1 Million.
Overall this is a comic book VS forum where PIS is ignored.
you dont understand. my point is that he couldnt do any of those feats alone. he needed extra help to achieve them.
what PIS? this guy has like several appearances that we can count on both hands andalmost in any single fight he had he got his ass spanked.
he restrained an hourman that was part of his team and wasnt fighting him. thats not a fighting feat. fighting is when the elseman beat him down to tears. fighting is when batman beat his ass down. fighting is when ultraman beamed him into the dirt with 1 shot. thats fighting.
Originally posted by Dareangel
you dont understand. my point is that he couldnt do any of those feats alone. he needed extra help to achieve them.what PIS? this guy has like several appearances that we can count on both hands andalmost in any single fight he had he got his ass spanked.
he restrained an hourman that was part of his team and wasnt fighting him. thats not a fighting feat. fighting is when the elseman beat him down to tears. fighting is when batman beat his ass down. fighting is when ultraman beamed him into the dirt with 1 shot. thats fighting.
Hourman WAS fighting him. Read his words:
But you can't prove he couldn't hold Solaris on his own.
And holding back the weight of even 1% of a galaxy is phucking impressive.
As for Ultraman, read my scans above.
Do you have the Batman 1 Million scans? I sure hope it's not when he was depowered.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Context.Zoomed in:
yes, context my man. they lost it temporary when that happened. at that moment. but they got their powers back. you are trying to say that during this entire arc the JLA 1 million were powerless? thats simply not true. kal kent could fly and still used his powers. wonder woman had her powers during the arc. please, think before you post.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hourman WAS fighting him. Read his words:But you can't prove he couldn't hold Solaris on his own.
And holding back the weight of even 1% of a galaxy is phucking impressive.
As for Ultraman, read my scans above.
Do you have the Batman 1 Million scans? I sure hope it's not when he was depowered.
dont try to mislead me, i know the comics very well. hourman is part of their team and he got mad but he wasnt fighting anyone. thats why he told superman to let him go instead of trying to actually fight him. again, dont twist things because you know very well what happened before that and the overall context.
as for kal kent handeling solaris on his own, you are funny. during the 1 million arc kal kent explained and admited they couldnt stop solaris. if he was powerful enough to stop solaris, he would have done it by now, and wouldnt let solaris gain all that power and cause all this mess. but with the help of green lantern he was able to contain it.
bruh, both him and batman 1 million were in their universe. please, stop with this "if kal kent doesnt have the super sun stuck up his ass he is depowered" thing. its redicilous.
Originally posted by Dareangel
yes, context my man. they lost it temporary when that happened. at that moment. but they got their powers back. you are trying to say that during this entire arc the JLA 1 million were powerless? thats simply not true. kal kent could fly and still used his powers. wonder woman had her powers during the arc. please, think before you post.
As per Batman's words, before he fights Superman 1M.
Later on, the powers return, yes - and they immediately start waning.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85As per Batman's words, before he fights Superman 1M.
Later on, the powers return, yes - and they immediately start waning.
again, they got their powers back later. when ultraman one shotted kal kent, he regained his powers back and was using them before ultraman one shotted him. when he fought batman they regained their powers. please, take a moment to understand the comics instead of throwing everything you can at me and then discover you rushed without reading all of it.
Originally posted by Dareangel
dont try to mislead me, i know the comics very well. hourman is part of their team and he got mad but he wasnt fighting anyone. thats why he told superman to let him go instead of trying to actually fight him. again, dont twist things because you know very well what happened before that and the overall context.as for kal kent handeling solaris on his own, you are funny. during the 1 million arc kal kent explained and admited they couldnt stop solaris. if he was powerful enough to stop solaris, he would have done it by now, and wouldnt let solaris gain all that power and cause all this mess. but with the help of green lantern he was able to contain it.
bruh, both him and batman 1 million were in their universe. please, stop with this "if kal kent doesnt have the super sun stuck up his ass he is depowered" thing. its redicilous.
Post the Batman 1M scans then, please.
And Hourman looks like he's struggling pretty hard there.
As for Solaris, you are misremembering - the JL1M said that the present day JLA couldn't handle him because they were too primitive.
Originally posted by Dareangel
again, they got their powers back later. when ultraman one shotted kal kent, he regained his powers back and was using them before ultraman one shotted him. when he fought batman they regained their powers. please, take a moment to understand the comics instead of throwing everything you can at me and then discover you rushed without reading all of it.
Post the scans then.
If the dome is down....and our powers are returNING. Not returned.
Timeline is simple.
Dome goes up
JL1M are powerless
Batman/Superman fight
Dome goes down
Powers start returnING. Not return at once.
Ultraman blindsides S1M
So in short: when he's fighting Batman1M, he's powerless. When Ultraman blindsides him, his powers are still returning, but he's also losing his powers.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Post the Batman 1M scans then, please.And Hourman looks like he's struggling pretty hard there.
As for Solaris, you are misremembering - the JL1M said that the present day JLA couldn't handle him because they were too primitive.
i will tell you what, i will go read all that shit again to make sure i am not missing something and will post the batman 1 million kicking his ass scans.
Originally posted by Dareangel
i will tell you what, i will go read all that shit again to make sure i am not missing something and will post the batman 1 million kicking his ass scans.
This one, right?
Yeah, Supes is powerless here. Which is why I keep asking - there is always a chance I missed something myself.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought so.So OKT doesn't have the showings for TP resistance. I wasn't sure why you mentioned durability, mainly because it would be useless.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well...yes. I never said Surfer didn't have the perception feats? I am genuinely confused as to what point you're trying to make.Is it that I'm hypocritical and have double standards? That's based on nothing. I didn't say Surfer didn't have the feats of fighting at extremely fast speeds (although truth be told, I didn't look at the numbers Alberto spewed).
So I guess we're all in agreement here. Kal Kent stomps.
OKT is able to perceived and follow Gorr moving at speeds that allow him to cover light years in moments. So that similarly equates combat speed and therefore he matches or even surpasses Kal's speed.
So where do you get that I am in agreement that Kal stomps? Where did I express that? Can you see how your MO is to misrepresent what people say in a way whereas you put words in their mouths? Does this not give you reason why I don't respond to your attempts at "gotcha questions"?