Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Whilst Apoc has to rely on second hand feats and scaling, Despero goes ahead and steamrolls characters who have double or even triple the feats Apoc has.
See this is what I mean. There is still the possibility that he might resist long enough to go into offense. I agree with your stance, but it still isn't 100% guaranteed that things would play out that way. This might actually turn into a huge upset.
IMO, if Despero is able to win the mind domination battle, he wins big. But if he doesn't... We'd need to consider that Apoc has his own methods of winning by enthrallment, and his reach advantage is considerable. I do agree with your stance but I just can't agree that your conclusion is the only relevant conclusion.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWIt's funny how sometimes, Apoc's underlings/horsemen/henchmen have feats that would make even him proud [i.e. see Harbinger steamrolling Avengers]. Until we saw him against Thor, we'd have thought that type of performance would be above him [choking Hulk like a ***** notwithstanding]
Exactly.That's why telepaths don't even bother with that strategy against Apoc himself 😎
I should probably update the respect thread with Harbinger's showings...