Originally posted by dadudemon
If you want to see the difference between police training between the UK and the US:When the police tried to break up a party in London, the partiers fought back. Throwing beers at the police. The police very carefully exited the confrontation. The UK's policing approach prioritizes life and person over enforcing the law. If confronting the people results in violence that otherwise would not happen, their approach is to issue fines and tackle it at a later date instead of beating them, gassing them, arresting them, etc.
No one dies. No one gets harmed. Fines are still issued for those that can be identified.
I remember I was talking with lil bitchiness some years back about the police issues in America. And she said the difference can be summarized by what we call the police vs what they call the police in the UK. In America it’s the police force. I’m UK it’s the police service.
Originally posted by BackFire
I remember I was talking with lil bitchiness some years back about the police issues in America. And she said the difference can be summarized by what we call the police vs what they call the police in the UK. In America it’s the police force. I’m UK it’s the police service.
I do miss her insight. She was smart. She also had a graduate degree in criminology.
Originally posted by Surtur
One of the things dems are fighting for in this stimulus package is to make property taxes over 10k tax deductible.Lol. Why does anyone deserve a tax break because their local democrats tax them too much?
Wait a minute...
They want tax breaks for the rich?
Do you have a source for this?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait a minute...They want tax breaks for the rich?
Do you have a source for this?
Unless I misunderstood...
300,000 Deaths By December? 9 Takeaways From The Newest COVID-19 Projections
By Dec. 1, the U.S. death toll from COVID-19 could reach nearly 300,000. That's the grim new projection from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation — one of the more prominent teams modeling the pandemic. The new forecast, released Thursday, projects that between now and December, 137,000 people will die on top of the roughly 160,000 who have died so far.
NPR spoke with the head of IHME's team, Chris Murray, as well as with Nicholas Reich, of University of Massachusetts Amherst, who has set up a system for comparing 26 different U.S. forecasts. -snip
Should be noted that the IHME had made the 147K deaths model by August back in May which some claimed would be wrong and we'd be nowhere near that number come august. While the IHME got it wrong, they actually we're a bit too conservative.
Originally posted by Surtur
Unless I misunderstood...
So it looks like it's true. Republicans want tax breaks for the working class and poor.
Democrats want to block that tax break.
WTF?
Originally posted by dadudemon
So it looks like it's true. Republicans want tax breaks for the working class and poor.Democrats want to black that tax break.
WTF?
Not only that, but they didn't even think that a pandemic merited a pause in their push for it. They want it in the next stimulus package.
Originally posted by Robtard
300,000 Deaths By December? 9 Takeaways From The Newest COVID-19 ProjectionsBy Dec. 1, the U.S. death toll from COVID-19 could reach nearly 300,000. That's the grim new projection from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation — one of the more prominent teams modeling the pandemic. The new forecast, released Thursday, projects that between now and December, 137,000 people will die on top of the roughly 160,000 who have died so far.
NPR spoke with the head of IHME's team, Chris Murray, as well as with Nicholas Reich, of University of Massachusetts Amherst, who has set up a system for comparing 26 different U.S. forecasts. -snip
Should be noted that the IHME had made the 147K deaths model by August back in May which some claimed would be wrong and we'd be nowhere near that number come august. While the IHME got it wrong, they actually we're a bit too conservative.
Don't worry, IHME is DEFINITELY wrong with their projections (again).
Don't worry: there's no apocalypse incoming where round II is more deadly than round 1. It's not possible anymore due to the largest populated states already hitting near saturation. The deaths lag 1-3 weeks behind the tests. As I predicted, the deaths are dropping in the states that hit their true peaks due to the drops in cases prior weeks.
Unless the virus mutates into another deadly strain, you're seeing the end of it, now, already.
Be sure to quote my post when I'm wrong. I was correct for many weeks in a row when matched up against IHME's models up until late April because my R0 value wasn't high enough. Turns out, my model was still correct. There's just not variable in it for "killed a shitload of old people with stupid policies."
Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't worry, IHME is DEFINITELY wrong with their projections (again).
They weren't actually that wrong with the 147k by August projection, they undersold it a bit. Which back in May was said they were grossly overestimating the numbers and we'd be nowhere near 145-150k deaths in August. Now it's almost mid August and we're over 160K.
Originally posted by Robtard
They weren't actually that wrong with the 147k by August projection, they undersold it a bit. Which back in May was said they were grossly overestimating the numbers and we'd be nowhere near 145-150k deaths in August. Now it's almost mid August and we're over 160K.
Remember when it was 2 million? I remember. Remember when they said we'd have 50 times the patients as hospital beds and we ended up with empty hospitals all over the US with just a very few handful being overflowed with patients (for some ridiculously weird reason)? I remember that.
Remember when their projections were monstrously wrong and they scrambled and they magically adjusted their numbers to closely resemble mine (150K)? I remember that. We both still ended up being wrong.
If they were paying attention to the new immunity models, they'd also understand that herd immunity is no longer understood to be at 70%-80%. looks to be close to 20%-30%.
Of all the orgs out there, IHME is the second worst at getting it right.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember when it was 2 million? I remember. Remember when they said we'd have 50 times the patients as hospital beds and we ended up with empty hospitals all over the US with just a very few handful being overflowed with patients (for some ridiculously weird reason)? I remember that.Remember when their projections were monstrously wrong and they scrambled and they magically adjusted their numbers to closely resemble mine (150K)? I remember that. We both still ended up being wrong.
If they were paying attention to the new immunity models, they'd also understand that herd immunity is no longer understood to be at 70%-80%. looks to be close to 20%-30%.
Of all the orgs out there, IHME is the second worst at getting it right.
I remember🙂 Let's see how the cries to shutdown again work now that we've started to see the results in NY, they are in a crisis situation, no doubt.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember when it was 2 million? I remember. Remember when they said we'd have 50 times the patients as hospital beds and we ended up with empty hospitals all over the US with just a very few handful being overflowed with patients (for some ridiculously weird reason)? I remember that.Remember when their projections were monstrously wrong and they scrambled and they magically adjusted their numbers to closely resemble mine (150K)? Quote? I remember that. We both still ended up being wrong.
If they were paying attention to the new immunity models, they'd also understand that herd immunity is no longer understood to be at 70%-80%. looks to be close to 20%-30%.
Of all the orgs out there, IHME is the second worst at getting it right.
When did you claim the 150k by August? Cos I remember you attacked the post I made about the model showing 147K by August.
Here you go, you chastising the 147K deaths by August model:
Originally posted by dadudemon
Is that the same IHME model that was literally wrong every single day and they stopped updating it for a very long time?The same model I competed against and got right weeks in advance without having to adjust mine until mid-April?
I don't trust it at all.
Now where's your quote supporting the claim you made last page?