Originally posted by Bashar Teg
sanjay gupta just said we should have enacted all these emergency steps weeks ago. but this thread proves the while the medical field is a reliable source of reality-based information, we should also consider the feelings of internet prophets who live in sheltered middle-of-nowhere suburbia and don't have to deal with the reality of the situation
Right right, let the actual experts discuss the topic such as:
...Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, say that number is “certainly an overestimate” and expect a global rate below 1 percent*.Reports suggest significant ascertainment bias for COVID-19: Approximately 80 percent of confirmed cases are mild. There may be many cases with very mild symptoms that have gone completely undetected.
https://www.rand.org/blog/2020/03/estimates-of-covid-19s-fatality-rate-might-change-and.html
*A figure that just so happens to match up with my estimate.** 🙂
But more realistically:
A total of 1,716 health workers have become infected and 5 have died (0.3%)....
Most patients reported Wuhan-related exposures (85.8%) and were classified as mild cases (80.9%).
http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51
And keep in mind, that research was specific to people who were:
1. Suspected of having COVID-19
2. Already reporting to medical centers for being ill.
3. Related to others (coworkers, friends, and family) that were already reporting COVID-19
So you're collecting subsets of subsets and still not capturing true infection rates and true mortality rates. This is why Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control, stated that the mortality rates is most certainly overestimated and the real figure is less than 1%.
**I know it greatly pisses you that I could dig through the numbers and come up with estimates that are going to very likely end up being correct when the dust settles. My goal isn't to piss you off no matter how much you make passive aggressive digs at me. It's to simply bring the facts to the surface despite the hysteria that the MSM has caused.
And the most important thing about this COVID-19 hysteria is the lives that will be saved from avoiding the seasonal flu which is actually the far bigger killer than COVID-19:
So far, the new coronavirus has led to more than 100,000 illnesses and more than 3,000 deaths worldwide. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 34 million illnesses, 350,000 hospitalizations and 20,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
Imagine the number of people that will be saved from the seasonal flu due to the grossly excessive hypervigilance pertaining to COVID-19? Those seasonal flu deaths are monstrous if you consider that we have vaccines and vaccine programs for it, each year.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
66.Apparently "the test results take 4 days to come back." Oh yeah, 4 days she can spend getting treated if she has it, IF she even has it, since we don't ****ing know.
I mean she's walking around and talking just fine, my mom drove her, but still.
The situation is the same at the hospital I work at, yeah. I think the reason it takes that long is because the hospitals themselves lack the equipment to perform the test, and thus have to outsource it to other facilities.
But even if she does have it, there's no treatment that will shorten the course of a virus. If she doesn't actively have symptoms that require medical intervention, such as difficulty breathing, then there's nothing to be done right now anyways. That 4 days will be just as well spent at home.
Originally posted by NewGuy01This is true. Some hospitals weren't nearly as prepared as others for this, and simply cannot handle the volume.
The situation is the same at the hospital I work at, yeah. I think the reason it takes that long is because the hospitals themselves lack the equipment to perform the test, and thus have to outsource it to other facilities.But even if she does have it, there's no treatment that will shorten the course of a virus. If she doesn't actively have symptoms that require medical intervention, such as difficulty breathing, then there's nothing to be done right now anyways. That 4 days will be just as well spent at home.
Be glad you don't live here, though. Anyone with confirmed(or suspected) COVID is put on a mandatory 2 week quarantine, even if they are asymptomatic.
Originally posted by Surtur
Trump Torches Media Over False Google Website Claims, Flicks PaperClassic.
If anyone wonders why I take such an antagonistic stance towards the media (I believe it is the enemy of the people with a sprinkling of exceptions here and there), this is one example of many.
Originally posted by dadudemon
If anyone wonders why I take such an antagonistic stance towards the media (I believe it is the enemy of the people with a sprinkling of exceptions here and there), this is one example of many.
At least this one I checked didn't exactly deny it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus.html
Mr. Trump inaccurately described a website in development to mitigate the outbreak.
WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID“I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website, it’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location.”
This is misleading. Mr. Trump misstated the company developing the website and exaggerated its scope. After Mr. Trump spoke, Google issued a statement on Twitter from Verily, a separate subsidiary of Google’s parent company.
“We are developing a tool to help triage individuals for Covid-19 testing. Verily is in the early stages of development, and planning to roll testing out in the Bay Area, with the hope of expanding more broadly over time,” the statement read.
A spokeswoman for Verily said it had originally intended for the website to be used only by health care workers. Mr. Trump’s statement prompted the company to make it available to the public. The site will direct people to “pilot sites” for testing in the Bay Area, the spokeswoman said. If the pilot goes well, Verily aims to deploy the project nationwide, but there is no timetable for a national rollout.
Originally posted by Surturdamn it takes some serious nuts to say this after the week he's had
Trump Torches Media Over False Google Website Claims, Flicks PaperClassic.
"I’m sure you’ll apologize, but it would be great if we could really give the news correctly. It would be so, so, wonderful.” -trump
Originally posted by Surtur
The two brothers who spent over 10 grand on 17k bottles of hand sanitizer, etc. ended up donating it lol. They still might face charges too.People like that suck, but also stores gotta stop allowing bulk buys of these supplies. At least for now.
Posted this to Quora, got response "How much could they make, 100 grand? That's a poor persons idea of rich. Well they showed some initiative. The problem is if they bought less they could sell bottles face to face at markup, if they bought more they could sell to factories"
Really makes you wonder about the people who post there.