Count Dooku vs Darth Maul

To think that a Mace level Jedi would only use his eyes to judge who is the master and who is the apprentice, when both are standing right in front of him.... 😂

Nice job not addressing my other point. 🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
How so?

Originally posted by Galan007 Mace directly encounters Maul and Dooku:
https://i.imgur.com/cbPzCQp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OSyjFHY.jpg

And then a few pages later in the very same issue, reports that Dooku is the Sith master they've been seeking, and Maul is his apprentice:
https://i.imgur.com/AU5shUW.jpg

I think it's far more of a reach to assume that Mace's assertion was based solely on Dooku being older than Maul... Especially when Force users of Mace's caliber regularly use sense-abilities which allow them to [very accurately] sense/detect the power of their opponents.

If that's the case, why doesn't Mace engage Dooku then, if he sensed he was more powerful than Maul. Should we assume he thinks Obi-Wan is stronger than himself? Actually, why don't Mace and Obi-Wan gang up on Dooku and leave Secura and what's her face to handle Maul, if it's that apparent that he's weaker than Dooku? Care to speculate?

Because the comic books aren't an internet battleboard, and the preexisting plot dictated that Dooku couldn't be captured/killed by the Jedi prior to RotS..? 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Because the comic books aren't an internet battleboard, and the preexisting plot dictated that Dooku couldn't be captured/killed by the Jedi prior to RotS..? 😕

Yeah, it's not like the author could have contrived some way for Dooku and Maul to escape, like say one of Maul's Mandalorian cronies firing a rocket and knocking Mace out. Wait, that actual-

😂

I wonder if I should try ignoring anything I don't like with the explanation that the preexisting plot required it...

What if Maul was always much stronger than Obi-Wan, he only lost on Naboo and Tatooine because the plot required Obi-Wan to survive until ANH?

Hey, that does make me feel better.

We seem to have discovered a new breed of idiot. Fascinating.

The writer of that series already said that Dooku was more powerful than Maul anyways regardless of that scene.

That same writer also said that Maul can take a majority over Dooku 😁

I saw that.

But the argument here was who was more powerful.

Originally posted by Unbowed
That's what you came up with? 😂

Yeah, it's not like the author could have contrived some way for Dooku and Maul to escape, like say one of Maul's Mandalorian cronies firing a rocket and knocking Mace out. Wait, that actual-

😂

I wonder if I should try ignoring anything I don't like with the explanation that the preexisting plot required it...

What if Maul was always much stronger than Obi-Wan, he only lost on Naboo and Tatooine because the plot required Obi-Wan to survive until ANH?

Hey, that does make me feel better.

It's one thing to troll. It's another thing to be flatout stupid. 😬

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yup and Mace clearly thought it was plausible that Maul was the master in TPM even asking Yoda which he thought Maul was.

Then he encounters a more powerful sith and concludes dooku must be the master.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Mace thought it was plausible maul was the matter when maul was the only sith they were aware of.

Then he encounters a more powerful sith and concludes dooku must be the master.

Yup exactly.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yup exactly.

We're in agreement.

Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
That same writer also said that Maul can take a majority over Dooku 😁

yeah it sounds a bit plausible, Maul was asking Dooku to Serve him why didnt he say join instead...

I don't think Dooku would follow a loser. If I remember correctly Dooku told him he would fail.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I don't think Dooku would follow a loser. If I remember correctly Dooku told him he would fail.

Oh yeah thats right Dooku basically doubted him and said back to maul that anyone and people in the past who have tried to oppose Sidious and his empire etc will always end up losing and failing etc ...

Originally posted by Sheev
We seem to have discovered a new breed of idiot. Fascinating.

Without resulting to vulgarity, let's just say you of all people shouldn't be questioning the intellect of others.

It's no wonder this place has been a cesspit for the past 2 years. The people who debated here in the past might have been egomaniacs but at least they were intelligent debaters.

That's neat.

You're still a moron though. Sorry. 👆

Yeah, that's fine. I'm used to certain types needing to get the last word in...

The age difference between Maul and Dooku might have been a factor. Because Mace knows Maul being a Sith dates back to TPM. And it would be a bit strange to think 20 year old Maul then was 70 year old Dookus Master. Would make much more logical sense to assume Dooku had trained Maul.

But assuming it was solely based on power, who knows how much of a differential Mace thought there was between Maul and Dooku. Also S7 Maul is probably his peak as of TCW.

That all said ill give Dooku the edge over Maul, but I honestly feel they are in the same tier now.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The age difference between Maul and Dooku might have been a factor. Because Mace knows Maul being a Sith dates back to TPM. And it would be a bit strange to think 20 year old Maul then was 70 year old Dookus Master. Would make much more logical sense to assume Dooku had trained Maul.

But assuming it was solely based on power, who knows how much of a differential Mace thought there was between Maul and Dooku. Also S7 Maul is probably his peak as of TCW.

That all said ill give Dooku the edge over Maul, but I honestly feel they are in the same tier now.

Again, Mace thought it was fully possible Maul was the Sith Master in TPM. That's why he asks 'but which was destroyed the master or the apprentice?'. What changes his mind was sensing the two of them together. Not to mention Obi-Wan, who was there and fought both Maul and Dooku multiple times, seems likely to have contributed to Mace's report.