Originally posted by PsychotronRey was never amped. She was inspired by the Jedi. Sidious was amped by the dyad yet still went down hard. Kylo has her beaten as I said Kylo is the most complete force user in terms of formidability of all time films wise which is all that really matters.
Amped!Rey
ROS Sidious
Luke Skywalker
Yoda
Darth VaderKylo Ren would get destroyed by the average PT Jedi in a fight.
Kylos power level is well above any pt Jedi. The new trilogy trumped all power levels by the Pt in every way.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Rey was never amped. She was inspired by the Jedi. Sidious was amped by the dyad yet still went down hard. Kylo has her beaten as I said Kylo is the most complete force user in terms of formidability of all time films wise which is all that really matters.Kylos power level is well above any pt Jedi. The new trilogy trumped all power levels by the Pt in every way.
Rey was amped the same way Sidious was. And Sidious tossed Kylo down that hole like the sack of garbage he was, while Rey beat Sidious. Rey with the Jedi spirits > Sidious > Kylo is not in question.
His power level is shit. He was helpless against the KoR without his lightsaber. People like Yoda, Sidious, Dooku, Vader, Luke etc. would would have destroyed those jobbers with the Force.
Originally posted by Bashar TegHe was amped though by the dyad but Rey showed she could beat him. Granted she probably does not have the raw power output but her power equaled out the Sith in the Jedi ending them both. Him first then her.
im pretty sure that palp's stupid-ridiculous feats in ep9 proved him to be the most powerful force user. we're talking raw power and not swordsmanship/h2h, right?
Originally posted by The MerchantPalpatine did not defeat either of them he stole power to amp himself. Ben at his most powerful under balance soundly dominated Rey. An amped Palpatine was held in check just by Rey. When she brought out the second saber she walked him back and decimated him. Luckily Ren was symbolically killed by Rey after he felt his mother pass. Kylo Ren was just on another formidable level. Palpatine is fl or bust. If you have a saber you can parry it.
How is Kylo number 1 when he wanted Rey to help him take on the zombie version of Palps who was whomping them even before he absorbed the Dyad lmfao
Originally posted by quanchi112
Palpatine did not defeat either of them he stole power to amp himself. Ben at his most powerful under balance soundly dominated Rey. An amped Palpatine was held in check just by Rey. When she brought out the second saber she walked him back and decimated him. Luckily Ren was symbolically killed by Rey after he felt his mother pass. Kylo Ren was just on another formidable level. Palpatine is fl or bust. If you have a saber you can parry it.
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Originally posted by PsychotronNo, as she received no external power ups. It is not how the Jedi work. Sith use unnatural means the Jedi do not. She was not alone but her strength was innate in her.
Rey was amped the same way Sidious was. And Sidious tossed Kylo down that hole like the sack of garbage he was, while Rey beat Sidious. Rey with the Jedi spirits > Sidious > Kylo is not in question.His power level is shit. He was helpless against the KoR without his lightsaber. People like Yoda, Sidious, Dooku, Vader, Luke etc. would would have destroyed those jobbers with the Force.
No, he was not helpless. He was outnumbered and weaponless. Once he acquired a weapon he dominated them. Sidious it seems is just fl from rotj even until now. Kinda pathetic tbh. Rey walked him back and dominated an amped Palpatine. Ren soundly dominated her on the ship. Kylo Ren is at the top of the mountain. Rey is number 2.