JLA vs Avengers, most powerful incarnation

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
TR is a SUPERMECH. It's essentially a vehicle. That's like saying the ****ing Thundertank counts for composite Lion-O 🤦🏿‍♂️
TR is literally an robot. It's powered by duality, not Superman. It's literally explicitly stated in the book. That's why Ultraman is needed, doesn't get any clearer than this.

it's Clark's consciousness AND Ultraman's. It's powered by duality. Without both, it doesn't run. There's a point in the fight where Superman states he can feel Ultraman's influence in TRs actions.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@Hulkster
The thought robot is a body of pure thought.And the thought itself is the very essence of Superman - the unbeatable defender from the most powerful story in its very idea/thought form
https://ibb.co/4Y2H2kF
https://ibb.co/NgvYJYN
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
And that is why he could fight Mandrakk himself(A hyper-story consumer)
https://ibb.co/wLHzsdj
That's why "Only Superman can save us". The thought robot is Superman - his story in its purest essence.
Even Grant Morrison, The writer of this story said Mandrakk and TRS are two concepts that are oppsite with each other

That was.....So blatant and clear in this comic?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
A model, a construct not Superman. Besides the story needed the consciousness of both Superman and Ultraman to ride the TR, there's ZERO evidence Supes could have done it on his own, so it's not entirely him either.

a machine, nothing more. his consciousness was just put into a machine that's literally it, if he was actually superman he wouldn't have needed to through the fusion process with a multiverse counterpart with different experiences

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
😂 it was funny to see even after months you still so butthurted.
Ultraman was needed in activating TRS, But it was being by powered Superman's story/essence like I said before. And when its activated, It being driven by Superman

It was hilarious you used a comic that not even remotely related to the story or the condition that we're dicussing. 😂
A corrupted, Flawed version of a parallel universe Batman transformed his consciousness to a robot dinosaur compared to A machine that specifically designed for Superman and It being powered by Superman purest essence
Also worth noting that was Wonder Woman personal perspective for a dark multiverse Batman and this story wasn't written by Morrison LMAO

And even Mandrakk himself also referring TRS as Superman
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#17

Yeah no, Ultraman's essences was needed to activate the suit. Superman says he can feel Ultraman’ a influence in his mind. if ultraman's consciousness was in control, just like two conscious minds are needed to ride a yeger in pecific rim, then It's not a version for Clark, period.

Yeah right like we're gonna believe a suit built by the Monitors and powered by BOTH Superman and Ultraman who couldn’t even combine their essences without Adam Allen becomes a composite Superman. 😂 Keep that head canon to yourself, real ones see through the lies kid

@AlbertoJohnAvil
Nope, It was stated multiple times it was Superman who against Mandrakk and Mandrakk himself even referring it as Superman
What story do you think she was talking about?
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
Can feel another influence doesn't mean the other was in control.
Ultraman literally seeing Mandrakk as his god. So why in hell did he want to help Superman defeat Mandrakk if he was in control Trollberto?
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#2

@AlbertoJohnAvil
Mandrak referring it as Superman.Again, You are the one who keeps trolling and spreading his head canon and lying 😂

It’s not Superman, it’s two separate people who needed a third to even activate the suit.

@AlbertoJohnAvil
The comic said otherwise 😂
"I hold the elixir, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#17
"Tell me, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#19

That doesn't addess my point in any way shape or form, If it needs two characters to even power it, it obviously cannot be counted as a character itself. It's an object

And once it activated, It was being controlled and powered by Superman's himself.
So like other posters said

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does it even matter?

OP says Thought Robot is here.

OP does NOT say Reed with Owen with Beyonder powers is here.

So who cares lmao.

The op stated The Thought Robot Superman. It doesn’t matter by who it is powered by or how he’s powered in the comics. In this thread he’s powered and working. Doesn’t matter by who or why. for this thread it’s active the same way it’s in the comics. Are these guys thinking MrMind Put a non working TRS as a statue?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And once it activated, It was being controlled and powered by Superman's himself.
So like other posters said

The OP said using TRS and it very clearly TRS is working. IOW, It was controlled by Superman so what you keep saying is irrelevant.

Yeah no if it’s specifically made for him, it shouldn’t take two people to activate or use it 🤦🏽‍♂️ Try to GRASP that point.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil
The comic said otherwise 😂
"I hold the elixir, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#17
"Tell me, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#19

The Thought Robot Superman in the thread is operating on average. I don’t know why those guys are bringing the other stuff in. Like I said before it doesn’t matter who operates it or how it’s operating or why, in this thread it is assumed that TRS is operating with the same power levels shown in comics.

@AlbertoJohnAvil
So we both agree that Superman is in control and Mandrakk actually referring it as Superman 🙂 ?

aye qwerty, whatever your name is, Is the Destroyer actually Odin when the All Father's soul is driving it?

If the OP specifically using that version of Odin, Then why not?
Like many other posters already addressed:The OP said using TRS. IOW, TRS in the thread is operating. it doesn't matter how it’s operating or why, in this thread it is assumed that TRS is operating with the same power levels shown in comics.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
If the OP specifically using that version of Odin, Then why not?
Like many other posters already addressed:The OP said using TRS. IOW, TRS in the thread is operating. it doesn't matter how it’s operating or why, in this thread it is assumed that TRS is operating with the same power levels shown in comics.

By your logic, Destroyer is also Odin

It's a mech driven by Clark and Ultraman. Period. You ignoring that isn't going to it. It's not allowed as an incarnation for Supes

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
By your logic, Destroyer is also Odin

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's a mech driven by Clark and Ultraman. Period. You ignoring that isn't going to it. It's not allowed as an incarnation for Supes

Say what? It's a psychic mech. Full stop.