Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 WRONG, Superman and Ultraman aren't interchangeable. They have completely different biologies, abilities, strengths, weaknesses and skill sets. Their existences are inimical to each other because they are from opposed realities. If they touch, everything dies. Ultraman is NOT alternate Superman.Superman's absolute opposite. Which is actually the point of him being there. Because TR IS POWERED BY DUALITY, NOT Clark Kent. Do you understand what duality means?
As if more proof is needed (for those of you who needed a writer to confirm Supes isn't mUlTiVeRsAl 🥴😉 there's this. TR is literally described as a Sentinel Suit. Which, speaking broadly makes it exactly what I described it as: basically a type of mech. There is so much evidence on page that TR is an object, not a being. The Fan Force has you dudes really ****ed up:
AI is technically "living" but it's still a thing, not a being.
built object, incapable of action on it's own, hence having Clark and Ultra use it but ItS veRsIoN of SuPeS! Yeah no. It isn't. Never will be.
Clark wasn't the one controlling it. Never once did he say, "I did this or that or he shrugged off my attack".
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
The goal moving is hilarious 😆
The post was to reply you arguing Superman wasn't in control of TRS
This is your original postAnd nobody was denying TRS is a machine/robot. You just keep building a strawman to save your face.
The reasons that I and the comic and even the writer considering about it as Superman are already addressed in my previous posts. And the OP still is using TRS as a version of Superman.
I highly recommend you to take some medicine. Because you evidently have some physical or mental problems since you clearly can't comprehend others' posts and can't make a consistent point in an argument🙂
😂 Yeah no it isnt, He’s a construct. He’s modeled after Superman. If it takes him and Ultraman to power it, it’s not Superman.
The story calls it a robot, Adam Allen calls it the thought robot, Villlo labels it the TR. Superman himself says he’s in a thing of pure thought, another character incorrectly calling it armor doesn’t change the name.
Nobody goal moved, the entire time you argued that TR was a "Version" of Supes, and now that you got spanked badly on that and conceded that argument you wanna talm about some "NOBODY DENIed ThaT! I just said sUpES CoNtRol tHOuGHT roBOT" 😂
@AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Yep. You truly can't comprehend any basic word
This is what I said
And nobody was denying TRS is a machine/robot.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What about the X-Men and their resurrection protocols 😂
Try Tony Stark or Mister Sinister and their history of resurrections, lol.
Or Eternals --- which Hickman shamelessly copied.
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Smart thing to do would be elaborating on the soul part. I may not be into spiritual stuff much, but that would be a good way of confirming they are still the same characters.
Originally posted by Stoic
Alberto, if former Titan member Cyborg died, and was replaced by a robot that identified as Cyborg (which recently happened in an alt verse), is it Cyborg? What if it had all of Victor's memories?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What about the X-Men and their resurrection protocols 😂
no it’d be a robot with his memories like Vision was born with Wonder Mans brain patterns. Not the same person.
The X-men are the same person reborn down to the DNA
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Yep. You truly can't comprehend any basic word
This is what I saidDid I say it wasn't a version of Superman?
And what reason for Mandrakk incorrectly calling it. Also don't forget the writer himself also calling it Superman. Are you suggesting you know more about TRS than Mandrakk or Morrison?
OH NOW writers interviews is usable? 😂 desperate times comes with desperate measure eh kid
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilBecause you keep denying what stated on panel 😆 ?Or are you trying to pretend Mandrakk never refers it as Superman?you know that other characters calling it robot/machine didn't contradict it was a machine that being operated and powered by Superman, Hence Mandrakk calling it Superman and its a version of Superman right?Keep trolling.
OH NOW writers interviews is usable? 😂 desperate times comes with desperate measure eh kid
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because you keep denying what stated on panel 😆 ?Or are you trying to pretend Mandrakk never refers it as Superman?you know that other characters calling it robot/machine didn't contradict it was a machine that being operated and powered by Superman, Hence Mandrakk calling it Superman and its a version of Superman right?Keep trolling.
Yeah No it isn't, Adam clearly says it's powered by dualities. Split, opposing forces. TR is powered by the yin-yang pull between Ultra-Man and Superman, not by Superman himself. So Its not a "version" of Supes
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilLol. I already posted that scan and gave an opposite conclusion
Yeah No it isn't, Adam clearly says it's powered by dualities. Split, opposing forces. TR is powered by the yin-yang pull between Ultra-Man and Superman, not by Superman himself. So Its not a "version" of Supes
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But it was controlled and powered by Clark and The OP specifically using this version 🙂No, It was powered by Superman's story
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
https://ibb.co/NgvYJYN
The duality just the energies that need to activate as it stated on panel
"A thought robot activated by the tremendous energies unleashed during collisions of fundamental opposing qualitis"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Superman-Beyond/Issue-2?id=74549#9The comic said otherwise 🙂
"I hold the elixir, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Fi...e-2?id=74549#17
"Tell me, SUPERMAN"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Fi...e-2?id=74549#19
Even Grant Morrison himself referred it as Superman Trollberto
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no it’d be a robot with his memories like Vision was born with Wonder Mans brain patterns. Not the same person.
The X-men are the same person reborn down to the DNA
DNA, memories, personalities, powersets, even the artificial enhancements in some cases...
We're only missing Hickman confirming their souls are intact, unless he (or some other writer) has done it already.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil😆 Again, You failed in comprehending the very basic words that I posted.
😂 😂 So you posted a scan that PROVED my point? Yeah the CONCLUSION was that TR isn't solely powered by Superman lmaooo, your own scan blatantly says that.
No, It was powered by Superman's story
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
https://ibb.co/NgvYJYN
The duality just the energies that need to activate as it stated on panel
"A thought robot activated by the tremendous energies unleashed during collisions of fundamental opposing qualitis"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Fi...ue-2?id=74549#9
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
😆 Again, You failed in comprehending the very basic words that I posted.
No, The post was saying TRS was activated by the dualities. But once activated, It was being powered and operated by Superman
That is....Exactly what I'm previously saying in my post
Being Powered by Superman's essence/storyOnly activating it needs the dualities
Noting that Adam said the energies were used to broadcast Superman pure essence to TRS not to power it
Again, Do me a favor. Improve your basic reading.
EXACTLY. TR is the cosmic version of one of Starks IM drone bodies. It's powered by esoterica rather than tech but still same concept. A made thing, powered by an actual being.
it's STILL a dead hunk of hardware without a pilot. Or, two in TR's case. It's inert on its own. It's an object, so nah kid not an "version" of Superman 😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilBut the comic referred it as Superman( Mandrakk). And just some food for thought, The writer himself also referred it as Superman.
EXACTLY. TR is the cosmic version of one of Starks IM drone bodies. It's powered by esoterica rather than tech but still same concept. A made thing, powered by an actual being.it's STILL a dead hunk of hardware without a pilot. Or, two in TR's case. It's inert on its own. It's an object, so nah kid not an "version" of Superman 😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilAnd DC also referred it as Superman. The dialogue not written by me. 🙂
in general, composite matches use versions of Clark. TR is an object. what's irrefutable, no matter what you say, is that TR is an object, PER DC, not Superman.