JLA vs Avengers, most powerful incarnation

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil7 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
DNA, memories, personalities, powersets, even the artificial enhancements in some cases...

We're only missing Hickman confirming their souls are intact, unless he (or some other writer) has done it already.

Maybe?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But the comic referred it as Superman( Mandrakk). And just some food for thought, The writer himself also referred it as Superman.
And most importantly, The OP treating and using TRS as a version of Superman in this thread. So if you have any problem, Then asking mrmind to change it.
We're posting in his thread so we're playing his rules, Simple
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And DC also referred it as Superman. The dialogue not written by me. 🙂
It is an object and it is a version of Superman. For me. It was similar to If Superman is wearing The Entropy Aegis

What? he already knew him from his first contact with the stories when he probed the fault.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What? he already knew him from his first contact with the stories when he probed the fault.
I don't know what are you trying to say.
Are you saying because Mandrakk knew Superman hence he referred TRS as Superman when they're fighting?
Like I said before.
1Mandrakk certainly treated TRS as Superman. And some food for thought:The writer also treated TRS as Superman(or rather, His concept)
2 TRS was being powered and piloted by Superman. Superman is engine of TRS
Just like PR said before
Originally posted by -Pr-
The story thing can be quite convoluted, but Morrison himself has taken the idea that all superhero stories stem from Superman as a literal construct. Story in DC exists because of Superman's story, so in essence, Superman is the engine powering it all.

This is something Morrison has stated himself.


3 The OP was treating and using TRS as a version of Superman. So we go by it in this thread. Simple

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I don't know what are you trying to say.
Are you saying because Mandrakk knew Superman hence he referred TRS as Superman when they're fighting?
Like I said before.
1Mandrakk certainly treated TRS as Superman. And some food for thought:The writer also treated TRS as Superman(or rather, His concept)
2 TRS was being powered and piloted by Superman. Superman is engine of TRS
Just like PR said before

3 The OP was treating and using TRS as a version of Superman. So we go by it in this thread. Simple

😂 BUT its not a "version" of Superman, Literally says it's a suit. It's an object, not a being.

it's an artificial construct housing Superman's essence, it's gear. (Similar to arguments about Cyberion Station Cyborg or 1610 Tony)

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I don't know what are you trying to say.
Are you saying because Mandrakk knew Superman hence he referred TRS as Superman when they're fighting?
Like I said before.
1Mandrakk certainly treated TRS as Superman. And some food for thought:The writer also treated TRS as Superman(or rather, His concept)
2 TRS was being powered and piloted by Superman. Superman is engine of TRS
Just like PR said before

3 The OP was treating and using TRS as a version of Superman. So we go by it in this thread. Simple

Um YEAH he mad first contact with the story concept when the overmonitor discovered the fault.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I don't know what are you trying to say.
Are you saying because Mandrakk knew Superman hence he referred TRS as Superman when they're fighting?
Like I said before.
1Mandrakk certainly treated TRS as Superman. And some food for thought:The writer also treated TRS as Superman(or rather, His concept)
2 TRS was being powered and piloted by Superman. Superman is engine of TRS
Just like PR said before

3 The OP was treating and using TRS as a version of Superman. So we go by it in this thread. Simple

Argument #3 is all that matters ,tbh.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 BUT its not a "version" of Superman, Literally says it's a suit. It's an object, not a being.

So TRS is a robot/suit/machine which Superman was wearing/piloting/operating/powering.
Like I said before, Nobody denied that.
I already addressed it in my early postS
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
.It was an object no one denied that, But an object that Superman was in control and powered it

How many times you need me to repeat the exact words?
It is an object and it also can be seen as a version of superman for the reasons I posted before.
And most importantly. The OP used it as a version of Superman and we're posting in this thread so we go by it. Can you understand? 🙂

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So TRS is a robot/suit/machine which Superman was wearing/piloting/operating/powering.
Like I said before, Nobody denied that.
I already addressed it in my early postS

How many times you need me to repeat the exact words?
It is an object and it also can be seen as a version of superman for the reasons I posted before.
And most importantly. The OP used it as a version of Superman and we're posting in this thread so we go by it. Can you understand? 🙂

Except it can't, Mentally, it's half Superman. Superman and Ultraman were used to power the consciousness of it, and Superman retained control of it until it died. Physically, of course it isn't Superman at all for like, 99.99999999999...9% of its being. Its size means that Superman and Ultraman are infinitesimal specs within its makeup.

His body didn't become the mech. Physically, he's so insignificant compared to the thing he might as well not exist within it at all. The way he controls it is the mental connection.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Except it can't, Mentally, it's half Superman. Superman and Ultraman were used to power the consciousness of it, and Superman retained control of it until it died. Physically, of course it isn't Superman at all for like, 99.99999999999...9% of its being. Its size means that Superman and Ultraman are infinitesimal specs within its makeup.
It was his essence/story that powering TRS and using it against Mandrakk
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@Hulkster
The thought robot is a body of pure thought.And the thought itself is the very essence of Superman - the unbeatable defender from the most powerful story in its very idea/thought form
https://ibb.co/4Y2H2kF
https://ibb.co/NgvYJYN
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
And that is why he could fight Mandrakk himself(A hyper-story consumer)
https://ibb.co/wLHzsdj
That's why "Only Superman can save us". The thought robot is Superman - his story in its purest essence.
Even Grant Morrison, The writer of this story said Mandrakk and TRS are two concepts that are oppsite with each other

That was.....So blatant and clear in this comic?


Yeah. Again, on the very edge of the art and the edge of the mind of God there are these two big concepts fighting – Superman and Mandrakk, Predation and Protection, Greed and Preservation, Ugly and Beautiful, Youth and Age, Good and Evil, Black and White, Is and Isn't and all the others

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
😆 Again, You failed in comprehending the very basic words that I posted.
No, The post was saying TRS was activated by the dualities. But once activated, It was being powered and operated by Superman
That is....Exactly what I'm previously saying in my post
Being Powered by Superman's essence/story

Only activating it needs the dualities

Noting that Adam said the energies were used to broadcast Superman pure essence to TRS not to power it
Again, Do me a favor. Improve your basic reading.


But most importantly: The op said using TRS as a version of Superman. So go by it.
You just constantly repeating yourself and wasting our time.

Simply put: We're discussing in this specific thread which specifically treating and using TRS as a version of Superman. So go by it.