Ahsoka vs Kylo Ren

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
1. Well, two inquisitors were able to lift a jedi temple in sw rebels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT_eLtODF5A&feature=emb_title

As mentioned, the implication was just that the KoR's raw potential was Inquisitor-level. However, they were untrained, and as such their abilities were undeveloped. IOW, they never realized their potential.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Wasn't that just at the infancy of the inquistor program though?

That alone should put their abilities well beyond those of the KoR.

2 Inquisitors also grabbed the Phantom with its engines pulling in the other direction. And the best one (presumably GI) is just a little beneath Ventress.

So yeah they are pretty powerful.

Originally posted by Galan007
The KoR =/= proper Inquisitors.

As mentioned, the implication was just that the KoR's raw potential was Inquisitor-level. However, they were untrained, and as such their abilities were undeveloped. IOW, they never realized their potential.

Yep. Their force powers are described as "stunted" and "muted" in the visual guide.

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And the RoS Galaxy Guide follows that up by stating that they have "limited, untrained Force powers." Pretty sure Luke also said something similar in The Rise of Kylo Ren.

Originally posted by Galan007
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And the RoS Galaxy Guide follows that up by stating that they have "limited, untrained Force powers." Pretty sure Luke also said something similar in The Rise of Kylo Ren.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even a pre-prime Vader was capable of raping multiple Inquisitors with the Force:
https://i.ibb.co/mR3mVfb/force52.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/YkGj1P4/force53.jpg

And I'd put those two no-name Inquisitors above any two members of the KoR, given that they were all former Jedi, AND had undergone training from Vader himself. So if Kylo's power scales anywhere near Vader's, he should have still been able to ragdoll at least a few of the KoR without an issue. But again, he rarely uses the Force in battle... Even when he should.

^^also in those panels you could see how those no-name inquisitors had at least been able to corner Vader and causing him some trouble

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
The novelization states that Kylo could take out a few without a saber, but not all of them.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
^^also in those panels you could see how those no-name inquisitors had at least been able to corner Vader and causing him some trouble

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
1. Well, two inquisitors were able to lift a jedi temple in sw rebels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT_eLtODF5A&feature=emb_title

2. If the PG's aren't force sensitive....
Well I can't really defend that, lmao.

Wasn't that just at the infancy of the inquistor program though?

Originally posted by ares834
The PG aren't force sensitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8f3-QPBxUA

^ Took 6 of those guys to restrain Anakin. And by keeping a good distance as well.

But I see your point, in that we can easily find examples from TCW to lowball Anakin. Although its probably mostly down to Jedi restraint.

Also I dont think stuff like that happened to him close to ROTS. Towards the latter seasons of TCW Anakin is portrayed as pretty invincible methinks.

Glad you get my point. I was also going to bring up his fight against Hondo Ohnaka lol

Also as I’ve said in other threads, his fight against the Praetorians was pre prime. The novel states that the guards Rey fought in TROS are more formidable than the Praetorians, which scales Kylo quite a bit.

I think Kylo’s and Rey’s performances against the KoR and Royal Guards relative to their fight against the Praetorians was definitely meant to be an indication of their growth between the two movies.

@Prime, that quote me thinks is rather useless to bring up cause all we see the RG do in RoS is...die. If they were really more formidable than the Preatorian, than they should have been able to do more. Unless we get more on them, that could very well just be Rey's opinion.

By feats, the Preatorian Guard are better and they also have hype going for them too, so that's moreso putting them above.

There's something in the novel that she thought they were better than the PG right? Although does she ever confirm it afterwards?

“Several figures stepped forward, draped in crimson, similar to Snoke’s guard, which she and Kylo had defeated together. Rey had a feeling these guards would prove more formidable adversaries.”

You could say that’s just her opinion, but then why even say it in the first place? The intention was to show growth. Same reason why they were defeated easily.

You can even tell just by watching that they were better fighters. They were using the force offensively, Kylo was leaping all over the place and swinging his lightsaber faster—granted, that could just be because he’s using a different lightsaber.

Damn quoting problems...but anyway Prime it kinda goes against the quote in saying that they are formidable only to basically stomp them. How do we know they are formidable if they don’t show it? It's not like she really needs to show anymore improvement, given what we saw beforehand either.

Showing actual improvement would have been better if the Guards put up a fight, but they didn't, they just died. Because there isn't anything to contradict that these Guards wouldn't have been able to keep up with Rey, just like the Preatorian Guards being able to do so in TLJ despite the pair having noted to drawing off one another due to their Dyad.

Kylo and the KoR I don’t really have much an issue with.

I get what you’re saying. It just means that they are more formidable than the PG’s. Rey stomping them just shows how powerful she has become I guess.