Most overrated MU character?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Both, but Hulk is more-so. i just went on a tangent because i think he's a bit underrated too. He just doesn't skew as wildly as Gladiator does sometimes.

If nobody else makes one, I will.

Agreed, he's pretty much the top dog (if not the top dog) in the strength and punching department. He gets the benefit of having more showings too, so unlike Glads (who is basically a guest star) can be seen to be more consistent.

He DOES have a more limited powerset , as does Supes, it's just that the power LEVELS of both are crazy high. So yeah Supes has speed, but it's Flash level in travel and WW in reflexes. He has energy projection but it's in the ballpark of a Surfer. Strength, in the Hulk range.

The only thing he doesn't really have is a HF. Well, up until JL where he's sun amping.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed, he's pretty much the top dog (if not the top dog) in the strength and punching department. He gets the benefit of having more showings too, so unlike Glads (who is basically a guest star) can be seen to be more consistent.

He DOES have a more limited powerset , as does Supes, it's just that the power LEVELS of both are crazy high. So yeah Supes has speed, but it's Flash level in travel and WW in reflexes. He has energy projection but it's in the ballpark of a Surfer. Strength, in the Hulk range.

The only thing he doesn't really have is a HF. Well, up until JL where he's sun amping.

I wasn't claiming he didn't have a more limited powerset. Just that I think there's a level of hypocrisy involved from certain people.

Huh? How would you classify a HF then? As I would have said he does have one. Not on that level, sure, but still heals far faster than any Human would.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Huh? How would you classify a HF then? As I would have said he does have one. Not on that level, sure, but still heals far faster than any Human would.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
You can see from this thread the bias of some of these posters. They can’t even pick against a single marvel character in a all marvel character thread. Smh.
I bet if a similar thread was made with dc characters, you wouldn’t see the same bias.

You only give Marvel characters wins in all Marvel threads

Plus, this isn't a win/lose thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't claiming he didn't have a more limited powerset. Just that I think there's a level of hypocrisy involved from certain people.

Huh? How would you classify a HF then? As I would have said he does have one. Not on that level, sure, but still heals far faster than any Human would.

Oh, Supes does, but I was saying it's not as extreme as say Hulk eyc, which is different from all his other powers where dials are at 11.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, Supes does, but I was saying it's not as extreme as say Hulk eyc, which is different from all his other powers where dials are at 11.

Again, I'm not disputing that. I actually agree with you.

I just, as I said, dislike the hypocrisy. Hulk's limited powerset doesn't stop him achieving the things he does, but people act like even a rookie Green Lantern would stomp his face in.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Again, I'm not disputing that. I actually agree with you.

I just, as I said, dislike the hypocrisy. Hulk's limited powerset doesn't stop him achieving the things he does, but people act like even a rookie Green Lantern would stomp his face in.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Both, but Hulk is more-so. i just went on a tangent because i think he's a bit underrated too. He just doesn't skew as wildly as Gladiator does sometimes.

If nobody else makes one, I will.

Made it

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You only give Marvel characters wins in all Marvel threads

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Plus, this isn't a win/lose thread.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Lol I was just making a point and seems like you proved it.

and you still couldn’t pick one over the other.

I would pick Warlock and wouldn't pick Diana.

Oh and Vulcan

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk have always been called the most powerful being on the planet/in existence. Heck, the guy has been compared to the Celestial race, Phoenix Force, Galactus, a machine that can wipe out the entire Celestial race, etc... underrated, only on KMC.

Thor is either 1 or 2 in the Herald tier when it comes to power but he does have some lows which match the lows of characters that shows up in as many comics as he does. Hes underrated, by far.

Surfer IS the God of Heralds. Hell, he created the tier. Nothing short of skyfather should be able to take out a serious Surfer. He is by far one of the most underrated characters on KMC (only).

Ironman gets the love he deserves. He isnt underrated or overrated.

Gladiator is highly underrated as well. People tend to look at his lows more often than not and ignore his mids and highs.

Beast Boy gets more love than anyone mentioned here in this thread. Hell, Gorilla Grodd gets more love.

Hulk is certainly not often not called the most powerful being in existence. There are tons of people that could erase him from existence with the bat of an eye lash

Originally posted by -Pr-
Again, I'm not disputing that. I actually agree with you.

I just, as I said, dislike the hypocrisy. Hulk's limited powerset doesn't stop him achieving the things he does, but people act like even a rookie Green Lantern would stomp his face in.

We are in agreement, as per usual.

Your post actually inspired my Hulk/Wolverine thread. Both have high output damage, insane HFs, some agility/speed (Wolverine probably has more of these showings), no flight/real energy projection powers....

If you replaced Hulk in most of these forum/comic fights with Wolverine, how would that go? Yes, I know that Hulk has other powers like energy grabbing and whatever, but the bulk of his powerset is largely similar, with Logan having a significant edge over Hulk in fighting skills.

And that's why people may give the rookie lanterns a pass over Hulk. Same way they'd do with "rookie lantern Vs Wolverine, standard starting distance, BFR on etc" matches.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We are in agreement, as per usual.

Your post actually inspired my Hulk/Wolverine thread. Both have high output damage, insane HFs, some agility/speed (Wolverine probably has more of these showings), no flight/real energy projection powers....

If you replaced Hulk in most of these forum/comic fights with Wolverine, how would that go? Yes, I know that Hulk has other powers like energy grabbing and whatever, but the bulk of his powerset is largely similar, with Logan having a significant edge over Hulk in fighting skills.

And that's why people may give the rookie lanterns a pass over Hulk. Same way they'd do with "rookie lantern Vs Wolverine, standard starting distance, BFR on etc" matches.

The only issue I kind of have with the Hulkverine thing is how haxx Logan is. I don't think you can always measure him properly. He's like Batman or Cap in that he punches so far above his weight you kind of just have to suspend belief and carry on.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only issue I kind of have with the Hulkverine thing is how haxx Logan is. I don't think you can always measure him properly. He's like Batman or Cap in that he punches so far above his weight you kind of just have to suspend belief and carry on.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only issue I kind of have with the Hulkverine thing is how haxx Logan is. I don't think you can always measure him properly. He's like Batman or Cap in that he punches so far above his weight you kind of just have to suspend belief and carry on.

He's haxx because in a pure physical slugfest where he gets to go first he can one shot. That's it. Or even if he doesn't go first, his HF will pull him through until he can one shot....but that still implies a physical slugfest.

Put him up against Ambrose Chase, or Midnighter with doors, or any other high street/low meta with exotics, and he loses.

Hell just put him in a forum fight with Archangel. Or Angel with a gun and infinite ammo. No real range attacks (unlike Bats and Cap), no real travel feats, or speed feats....he's limited in his powerSET, but not his power LEVELS.

Same way Hulk is limited. That's why people generally argue against him, even with rookie GLs. Especially if that rookie GL is shown to be wilyto use force.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
some agility/speed (Wolverine probably has more of these showings)

"Probably"? 😂

But yeah, they're both limited in the same way that they lack ranged attacks or flight or any superpower that could somehow make up for them.

They can both leap pretty good (Hulk obviously much better in that department), but it's not something that trained, competent fliers should have trouble with on battleboards. Not when they're given the significant starting distance and full capacity advantages.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Probably"? 😂

But yeah, they're both limited in the same way that they lack ranged attacks or flight or any superpower that could somehow make up for them.

They can both leap pretty good (Hulk obviously much better in that department), but it's not something that trained, competent fliers should have trouble with on battleboards. Not when they're given the significant starting distance and full capacity advantages.

Well, Wolverine WAS created to kill Hulks 😈 but yeah, his claws more than make up for the strength gap between Hulk/Wolverine. So if we are to say Hulk is a beast based on his fights, Wolverine should be in the same-ish tier as him, because he is just as deadly, if not more so (as someone pointed out, Cap et al can take several Hulk punches to the face - but not a single Logan claw stab to the face).

I don't recall 616 Cap taking shots from the Hulk.

Logically, it should have an effect similar to this:

But sure, we're very used to streets and low metas surviving and even remaining conscious and keeping fighting after getting hit by bricks.

Much easier to accept than as if Cap ignored direct hits such as these: