Can World Breaker Hulk break the chains in Up and the Sky?

Started by DarkSaint8517 pages

The problem with using inertia, is that you are assuming that you will NEVER encounter anything in space along your travels.

So let's say you're pulling a rock in space. Albert is right in that once you push or pull that rock (i.e. get it moving) it will continue on its way forever without needing any more pushing or pulling.

UNLESS.

UNLESS.....your rock becomes subject to the gravitational pull of, say, a planet (asteroids, for example). Then your rock will crash into that planet. Then you need guidance to NOT crash.

As to the speed - the Andromeda galaxy is like 2.5 million light years away. That's serious pre-planning, lol. 'Oh, I will need a star in 2.5 million years - better order it now!'

And that assumes light speed travel.

You're trying to use physics to prove your point while ignoring the fact that physics says it's retarded to assume you can secure a string to a ball. Cuz that's basically what you're implying.

Everyone said you are wrong per the norm

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The problem with using inertia, is that you are assuming that you will NEVER encounter anything in space along your travels.

So let's say you're pulling a rock in space. Albert is right in that once you push or pull that rock (i.e. get it moving) it will continue on its way forever without needing any more pushing or pulling.

UNLESS.

UNLESS.....your rock becomes subject to the gravitational pull of, say, a planet (asteroids, for example). Then your rock will crash into that planet. Then you need guidance to NOT crash.

As to the speed - the Andromeda galaxy is like 2.5 million light years away. That's serious pre-planning, lol. 'Oh, I will need a star in 2.5 million years - better order it now!'

And that assumes light speed travel.

I never said the entire trip could be accomplished by inertia.
But it's also dumb to assume intra galactic movement with an object the mass of a star with said objects accompanying gravitational field. At best, light speed is only feasible in the void BETWEEN galaxies. What's funny is, you just gave the reason why. Imagine grabbing our sun and bee lining at light speed out of our galaxy. Ya just MIGHT hit something on the way out, yes? So no, light speed isn't the default for this trip until you are between galaxies

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I never said the entire trip could be accomplished by inertia.
But it's also dumb to assume intra galactic movement with an object the mass of a star with said objects accompanying gravitational field. At best, light speed is only feasible in the void BETWEEN galaxies. What's funny is, you just gave the reason why. Imagine grabbing our sun and bee lining at light speed out of our galaxy. Ya just MIGHT hit something on the way out, yes? So no, light speed isn't the default for this trip until you are between galaxies

Light speed feats are not within your comprehension and I don’t think you to Astro physics or quantum mechanics

I have no idea what's happening in this thread.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I never said the entire trip could be accomplished by inertia.
But it's also dumb to assume intra galactic movement with an object the mass of a star with said objects accompanying gravitational field. At best, light speed is only feasible in the void BETWEEN galaxies. What's funny is, you just gave the reason why. Imagine grabbing our sun and bee lining at light speed out of our galaxy. Ya just MIGHT hit something on the way out, yes? So no, light speed isn't the default for this trip until you are between galaxies

Yeah, but your chains will still need to tolerate the maximum stresses,i.e. lightspeed (at least!) stresses. And again, that's assuming you're waiting 2.5 million or so years for your order - and even then, that's only from one edge of a galaxy to another (you still have to actually get to your destination).

Not sure why you are jumping on this point like some aha moment.

If a car travels at 200mph, it's tires HAVE to be able to stand up to at LEAST those speeds, no? It's kinda stupid to say well, you can only get up to 200mph on a racetrack, so as its not the default speed (i.e. your car isn't constantly travelling at 200mph) the tires can only tolerate speeds of 60mph.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I have no idea what's happening in this thread.

Albert was arguing that since we have inertia, the chains that haul stars between galaxies aren't actually all that, as once you accelerate anything in space (be it a pebble, a rock, a planet or a star) you could haul it around with a human hair or w/ever.

Might be able to do it with a hair of Superman’s but that would be about if.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I have no idea what's happening in this thread.

😂

They are discussing the chain ft. Some are saying the person who was talking about the chain isn't reliable because he lied throughout the comic and others are saying even though he is a compulsive liar, we still can't ignore what he said about the chains.

it's like people don't understand that there's probably some shielding with the ship otherwise IT would break apart too. I guess we'll leave those physics out to just to keep up with the narrative.

Originally posted by carver9
😂

They are discussing the chain ft. Some are saying the person who was talking about the chain isn't reliable because he lied throughout the comic and others are saying even though he is a compulsive liar, we still can't ignore what he said about the chains.

Exactly, the chains clearly aren't unbreakable, therefore diminishing the importance of this feat. period

Originally posted by -Pr-
I have no idea what's happening in this thread.

Alberto's either trolling or a bit thick.

Hopefully the former, and not like Super Smash Bro's fans who insist a party game should be a competitive fighter (LOL!)

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're trying to use physics to prove your point while ignoring the fact that physics says it's retarded to assume you can secure a string to a ball. Cuz that's basically what you're implying.
were told in the comics that they used chains. I dont care if they lassoed it or had it connected to hitch that was connected to a star. Thats all speculation but The fact of the matter is the chains are able to withstand the pull of ftl engine on one side and stars on the other and still dont break or snap. Do you know why this is the only possibility than the speculations and assumptions you and your crew of retards are coming up with?

1- we were told this i the comic.
2- they couldnt use just any kind of Metal like youre trying to say with your Misunderstand of google search result physics, they needed a type of metal that was forged in “inverted black holes”.

Why would they need something this strong if everything is weightless in space and easy to move?

Originally posted by cdtm
Alberto's either trolling or a bit thick.

Hopefully the former, and not like Super Smash Bro's fans who insist a party game should be a competitive fighter (LOL!)

Both.

Originally posted by carver9
😂

They are discussing the chain ft. Some are saying the person who was talking about the chain isn't reliable because he lied throughout the comic and others are saying even though he is a compulsive liar, we still can't ignore what he said about the chains.

You are ignoring writer's intent.
Plus he never lied. Nowhere does the writer want the audience to know that the chains were not used to haul stars between galaxies. As far as unbreakable, the robot believed that the chains were unbreakable due to what they are capable of. We all argued that Cap's shield is unbreakable for many years before seeing it being broken for the first time. Why? Because of the powerful stuff it tanked.

It's a huge difference to speculate on something being unbreakable or not and stating facts of what the chains are regularly used for.

The feat was clearly meant to show off how strong he is.

Anyways, if you can prove they can't haul stars, or werent made to do so, go ahead and provide evidence of such.

Originally posted by Juntai
The feat was clearly meant to show off how strong he is.

Anyways, if you can prove they can't haul stars, or werent made to do so, go ahead and provide evidence of such.

they came up with their wacky theories that made no sense and then covered their eyes, fingered their ears and called the dude a liar because they didn’t want to believe what was said in the comic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, but your chains will still need to tolerate the maximum stresses,i.e. lightspeed (at least!) stresses. And again, that's assuming you're waiting 2.5 million or so years for your order - and even then, that's only from one edge of a galaxy to another (you still have to actually get to your destination).

Not sure why you are jumping on this point like some aha moment.

If a car travels at 200mph, it's tires HAVE to be able to stand up to at LEAST those speeds, no? It's kinda stupid to say well, you can only get up to 200mph on a racetrack, so as its not the default speed (i.e. your car isn't constantly travelling at 200mph) the tires can only tolerate speeds of 60mph.

And Don't none of that mean a thing in a science fiction world where ships have shielding that negates the effects of ftl travel or devices can stop a star cold and move it out of its natural order to be carried as a ball of gas and exploding energy....you can't even use that because it doesn't add up, period.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And Don't none of that mean a thing in a science fiction world where ships have shielding that negates the effects of ftl travel or devices can stop a star cold and move it out of its natural order to be carried as a ball of gas and exploding energy....you can't even use that because it doesn't add up, period.
then why use chains that are forged in an inverted blackhole?

Sure the could have tech to do just about anything but the used the chains the old fashion way to haul.