!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Nice.

So where is it activated here? Let me know which panel has the misdirection starting (just so you know, Logan and Fantomex weren't actually in the fight at all - and before you ask, no, that panel where his hand is up and he's being choked by the ribbons isn't the misdirection starting, as it's shown he was never in the ribbons to start with):
https://i.postimg.cc/k5zJ0r78/1-Inerplanetary-Long-Range-Misdirection-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/yNtRvr5p/2-Inerplanetary-Long-Range-Misdirection-2.jpg

That was over interplanetary distances, and it fades because of distance (more on that later).

When is it activated here?
https://i.postimg.cc/5trsMgHD/1-Misdirection-Jean-Charles-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/rpbzC0bS/2-Misdirection-Jean-Charles-2.jpg

The entire sequence with Jean and Xavier was an illusion, btw - the old lady, the house, everything:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CY6CnmB/4-Misdirection-Jean-Charles-4.jpg

When is it activated here?
https://i.postimg.cc/P5nJNqTy/RCO011-1468906482.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SKHhRW2z/Uncanny-X-Force-017-011.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cJ2Dwhc0/Uncanny-X-Force-017-016.jpg

How about here, when he has both his hands full with his guns - when does the illusion start?
https://i.postimg.cc/FKwXn9D5/WFgZJBy.jpg

This is what I was telling Galan - writers are deliberately vague with his powerset. Yes, sometimes he lifts his hands - and sometimes he doesn't. It just is.

It fades with distance. I mean, to use an example for you, Hulk is ALWAYS radioactive - but put enough distance between you and him, and that radioactivity will fade. Doesn't mean the Hulk is turning his radiation on and off.

A refresher 😂 point out where he's lifting his hands

Originally posted by carver9
"How long will your misdirection work on the mean little Kraut". "Not long, I'd wager it...". An always active ability doesn't fade away or diminish. When Night Crawler ported in, that ability still would have been there AND it wouldn't have faded like Fantomex mentioned.

https://m.imgur.com/a/9UfQE

So point out where in MY scans it was activated.

You see, you're arguing that it's always needs Fantomex to activate it. All I need to do is throw doubt in that.

So I've shown multiple times he hasn't just thrown it up. It was just.....there.

So I win by default. Your challenge was for those who could. And I've shown someone who could, a meta tier character.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's what Goku thinks he's doing.

Only to find that he's done nothing of the sort. You still haven't answered my question to point out where in my scans he's 'lifting his hand' to create illusions. Which means you can't, so I win.

As you ignored the fact Fantomex's power is untested against third senses.

For example, Matt Murdoch's radar sense. Which Goku duplicated in his second fight with Tien, with his back fully turned to him telling him how many fingers he had up.

Not ki sense. This was a trick strctly done with the existing senses.

"Third" senses?

"Murdoch"?

How are you this fucking retarded and still alive?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Third" senses?

"Murdoch"?

How are you this fucking retarded and still alive?

A sense besides site, which is two senses.

Because you have two eyes. One sense per eye.

It worked against Jamie Braddock.

It has also worked against Ship, Apocalypse's sentient Celestial ship. Which has no eyes/ears - something that was pointed out to cdtm years ago

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It worked against Jamie Braddock.

It has also worked against Ship, Apocalypse's sentient Celestial ship. Which has no eyes/ears - something that was pointed out to cdtm years ago

I remember that.

And I read the story. The ship doesn't actually speak. It is read. By people with eyes.

AoApocaloganypse did break through Fantomex's misdirection, though it did seem to work at first?

Could go either way, I guess.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doesn't mean the Hulk is turning his radiation on and off.

Fun fact, completely off-topic: Leader can do that.

👆 Carvy asked for the weakest who could. Fantomex, to me, is the weakest who has a chance.

Sure, if he toyed with Goku then Goku.... could? realise that he's being fooled and use those battle smarts to do something....

But Carv said both sides were out to win. Fantomex doesn't always fight, he IS a thief first, after all. In this scenario, though, I assumed he's out to win....so he'll just shoot Goku with Dr Doom's shrink ray.

His ability isn't always active. Fantomex gets blitz and tapped on the back of the neck for the ko, immediately. I already posted evidence of this. Of course they want draw it every single time but it's there (his powers not being active). He dies.

Originally posted by carver9
An always active ability doesn't fade away or diminish.

It can. Easily. Your statement is false.

Originally posted by carver9
His ability isn't always active. Fantomex gets blitz and tapped on the back of the neck for the ko, immediately. I already posted evidence of this. Of course they want draw it every single time but it's there (his powers not being active). He dies.

Goku needs to channel his ki. He was shot by a common thug with a laser.

Originally posted by carver9
His ability isn't always active. Fantomex gets blitz and tapped on the back of the neck for the ko, immediately. I already posted evidence of this. Of course they want draw it every single time but it's there (his powers not being active). He dies.

To help you understand with an example you'll grasp:

DS85: who could beat Hercules in an arm wrestle?
Carv: Hulk.
DS85: Bull. Here are showings where Hulk is weaker, way weaker than Herc!
Carv: Low showings, context, etc.
DS85: doesn't matter. I have shown that Hulk is weaker than Herc. End of discussion.

See how silly it looks?

Originally posted by -Pr-
It can. Easily. Your statement is false.

It really can't. How did you come to this conclusion?

Originally posted by cdtm
Goku needs to channel his ki. He was shot by a common thug with a laser.

How powerful was this laser? Also, Goku casually blitzing him and knocking him to the next state shouldn't be hard.

Originally posted by carver9
How powerful was this laser? Also, Goku casually blitzing him and knocking him to the next state shouldn't be hard.

Wait, so a common thug was fast enough to outreact Goku to shoot him? Interesting.

It was a sucker shot.

Goku outreacted literal sunlight as a kid.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, so a common thug was fast enough to outreact Goku to shoot him? Interesting.

He got shot in the back, lmao.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
It was a sucker shot.

Goku outreacted literal sunlight as a kid.

Yep. These are some of the slowest guys in DB history and they completed an entire tournament in less than a second. The Goku used here is SIGNFICANTLY faster than Krillin and Yoshi here...

https://ibb.co/KVSH6XT
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