!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by carver9
So do you agree that in this topic, since we have no defined way of determining this, that he can be ignored all together since neither one of us is right? All I'm saying is, since we've both provided evidence, why continue this argument about something that will never come to a conclusion. And if the conclusion turns out to be "his powers are always active against Goku", why choose Dark path over mine? I feel that debating him here should be exempted all together until KMC comes up with a way of determining his powerset.

Tbh... that's just too much. Does anyone else have someone that can take out this version of Goku minus Fantomex?

Originally posted by carver9
Tbh... that's just too much. Does anyone else have someone that can take out this version of Goku minus Fantomex?

Iron Fist.

Although he'd clearly beat Fantomex too, see right through his illusions with his "chi sense" that saw through when one character went intangible, so maybe not the weakest?

Originally posted by cdtm
Iron Fist.

Although he'd clearly beat Fantomex too, see right through his illusions with his "chi sense" that saw through when one character went intangible, so maybe not the weakest?

Let's debate. How is Ironfist beating Goku (lmao)?

Originally posted by carver9
Let's debate. How is Ironfist beating Goku (lmao)?

Ki stealing.

I think the one thing we can all agree is that Iron Fist cant beat anyone from anything ever.

He is the worst martial artist in fictional history.

Lmmfao

Originally posted by carver9
Tbh... that's just too much. Does anyone else have someone that can take out this version of Goku minus Fantomex?

Martian Manhunter.

Originally posted by cdtm
Says the guy who argues against Mxy and Thor based on solid facts of feelings. 😂

Being biased is one thing - intentionally trolling and derailing the thread with nonsense for 200+ pages is the other 😉

Wolverine has nothing to do with the feat. He digged Fantomex out and gave him a simple order. That's it.

Riddler doesn't need to be an expert on cars in order to know Batman drives a Batmobile.

Wolverine doesn't need to be a technopath or a telepath or a freakin' Celestial in order to know about the sentient ship every X-Man recruit is aware of at this point of their history.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Being biased is one thing - intentionally trolling and derailing the thread with nonsense for 200+ pages is the other 😉

Wolverine has nothing to do with the feat. He digged Fantomex out and gave him a simple order. That's it.

Riddler doesn't need to be an expert on cars in order to know Batman drives a Batmobile.

Wolverine doesn't need to be a technopath or a telepath or a freakin' Celestial in order to know about the sentient ship every X-Man recruit is aware of at this point of their history.

Ship was fooled into thinking it had teleported (as per Fantomex's misdirect). The operators weren't. Simple.

Another two panels, another twenty pages of trolling from Todd.

This battle cannot be won with scans.

Original:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Prosh_(Earth-616)

https://www.marvel.com/characters/prosh

Clone:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Celestial_Ship_(Clone)_(Earth-616)

TAS adaptation:

[list][*]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/X-Men:_The_Animated_Series_Season_3_10

[*]https://marvelanimated.fandom.com/wiki/Episode😮bsession[/list]

Shared traits among the versions:

Spoiler:
sentience, duh

What do you guys think of Invisible Woman taking out this Goku?

Bearing in mind, she does not have to be conscious to throw her shields up - so her forcefields are activated subconsciously (i.e. it doesn't rely on her reactions):

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What do you guys think of Invisible Woman taking out this Goku?

Bearing in mind, she does not have to be conscious to throw her shields up - so her forcefields are activated subconsciously (i.e. it doesn't rely on her reactions):

Spidey was fast enough to web her before she could reflectively set up a shield.

Goku simply.ki blasts her head off at the bell.

What do you guys think of Invisible Woman taking out this Goku?

Bearing in mind, she does not have to be conscious to throw her shields up - so her forcefields are activated subconsciously (i.e. it doesn't rely on her reactions):

If we ignore her whole character and use the bubble-in-the-brain trick? Or heart, lungs (like she threatened to do with Wizard and Doc Green)? Perhaps.

First strike is her only chance, as her shields are not likely to save her.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If we ignore her whole character and use the bubble-in-the-brain trick? Or heart, lungs (like she threatened to do with Wizard and Doc Green)? Perhaps.

First strike is her only chance, as her shields are not likely to save her.

The Goku who fought Roshi would rip her head off before she saw him move.

This Goku is essentially the same one who fought Radditz.

Yeah, she'd have to successfully preform some sort of exotic killing move to even have a shot at beating this Goku.

As for her shields, I doubt they'd hold up well.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If we ignore her whole character and use the bubble-in-the-brain trick? Or heart, lungs (like she threatened to do with Wizard and Doc Green)? Perhaps.

First strike is her only chance, as her shields are not likely to save her.

I mean, she actually did it with Logan:
https://imgur.com/a/DM64YKF

Her shields can be plenty strong. As when she shielded an entire planet against the (composite) Sentry and the Cancerverse:
https://i.postimg.cc/NMV3jFny/11.jpg

And Cormorant, whose power was off the charts and was only challenged by Franklin Richards:
https://i.postimg.cc/bJ26LT6J/20.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Right. I was moreso looking for shield showings indicative of her being able to withstand a full-blown, planet-busting attack. Splitting/cracking a world in half is one thing; blowing it to smithereens is another.

But the latter(and most recent) set of scans could imply that her shielding is capable of doing so in the most dire of circumstances, imo. Granted Franklin is depowered, but he's still enormously powerful and burned himself out against Cormorant, while Sue's shielding held up against him for a moment. Great feat for sure.

That being said, I think Sue's highest-end shielding might be able to hold up against Saiyan saga Vegeta's earth-busting Galick Gun, but is very likely to get overwhelmed by Saiyan saga Goku's KKx4 Kamehameha(which was > the aforementioned Galick Gun.)

Lol just remembered this. How would this Goku compare to Vegeta and his Galick Gun?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean, she actually did it with Logan:
https://imgur.com/a/DM64YKF

Yes, she did. EOTS 👆

But the way she described what she was gonna to do to Doc Green was much better. Too bad it didn't happen.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol just remembered this. How would this Goku compare to Vegeta and his Galick Gun?

Simple.

He would be an insignificant flea, one-shot-kill-target, pretty much the same as Moonbuster Kamesennin would be such a flea to that version of Goku.