!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I said OOC. And even then, OOC wasn't said by me,but by someone (Galan) who is way WAY more familiar with Goku than me

But sure, if Goku has no defence against misdirection, or BFR, or the Atom, or Invisible Woman, and has to use faster than sunlight speed at the start to have a chance of winning against metas, then ok lmao. Even though he didn't go for the KO in the fight you're using. Not talking about killing (you're obsessed with this), but knocking out/winning his fight with Piccolo.

Next up, Aquarian lol.

His character is to blitz, so why wouldn't it be mentioned here. I could've said start the round off with a Nuke and the results would be the same. I don't know why you're trying to make these characters into speedsters. You've never done this before. How far are we taking this? Is Human Torch faster than Goku as well? I'm just shocked anyone thinks the people you've named can out react Goku. You're either lowballing to the highest order or you truly know nothing of the character.

How much power has Aquarian dealt with in a single attack?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, the fight with the goons did happen, then one burns Logan's hand off. After that.....who knows.

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I'd love to think their Fastball Special happened, too. But we can't be 100% sure.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I assumed the misdirect happened earlier than the ribbons, just because if the distances involved....EVA would have to be stupidly fast otherwise

It would have to be stupidly fast anyway. We're talking about leaving our solar system. Unless there was a gate somewhere meant for faster space travel, teleportation or something.

The team often travelled in EVA (as it was their main transport) over much shorter distances and it always took some time, iirc.

Gotta say, I find the whole feat weird --- why not just kill them? Dump them in space? And why he never used EVA like that again?

Fantomex doesn't exactly have problems with killing people, him shooting the original reincarnated kid Apocalypse is the best example. Sure, he cloned and raised Evan later, but still.

Been a while since I read UXF, so maybe I'm missing something here.

Originally posted by carver9
His character is to blitz, so why wouldn't it be mentioned here. I could've said start the round off with a Nuke and the results would be the same. I don't know why you're trying to make these characters into speedsters. You've never done this before. How far are we taking this? Is Human Torch faster than Goku as well? I'm just shocked anyone thinks the people you've named can out react Goku. You're either lowballing to the highest order or you truly know nothing of the character.

How much power has Aquarian dealt with in a single attack?

More then Goku has here.

But Goku could win this as easy as Steve Rogers did. Martial artist.

Originally posted by carver9
His character is to blitz, so why wouldn't it be mentioned here. I could've said start the round off with a Nuke and the results would be the same. I don't know why you're trying to make these characters into speedsters. You've never done this before. How far are we taking this? Is Human Torch faster than Goku as well? I'm just shocked anyone thinks the people you've named can out react Goku. You're either lowballing to the highest order or you truly know nothing of the character.

How much power has Aquarian dealt with in a single attack?

Cosmic cube 🙂

I'm saying that these guys can outreact a Goku who fights like he did against Piccolo.....the version you stipulated in the challenge.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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I'd love to think their Fastball Special happened, too. But we can't be 100% sure.

It would have to be stupidly fast anyway. We're talking about leaving our solar system. Unless there was a gate somewhere meant for faster space travel, teleportation or something.

The team often travelled in EVA (as it was their main transport) over much shorter distances and it always took some time, iirc.

Gotta say, I find the whole feat weird --- why not just kill them? Dump them in space? And why he never used EVA like that again?

Fantomex doesn't exactly have problems with killing people, him shooting the original reincarnated kid Apocalypse is the best example. Sure, he cloned and raised Evan later, but still.

Been a while since I read UXF, so maybe I'm missing something here.

*Shrug* writers, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cosmic cube 🙂

I'm saying that these guys can outreact a Goku who fights like he did against Piccolo.....the version you stipulated in the challenge.

Aquarian's actually pretty easy to defeat.

Remember when Superman took on The Elite? Same tactic he used on Hat SHOULD work on Aquarian.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cosmic cube 🙂

I'm saying that these guys can outreact a Goku who fights like he did against Piccolo.....the version you stipulated in the challenge.

Originally posted by Mendax
Wasn't this version also basically the same one who fought Radditz though?

*shrug*, I am merely going off this from the challenger:

Originally posted by carver9
Yep. The one who fought Jr during the tourney.

And going off THAT fight, where he is trying to win AND knows all about Piccolo's abilities....he still didn't start the fight at FTL speeds, or at speeds that I think these guys can't match.

Of course, Carv is being a little salty b!tch about it lol, because he realises that without this, his top guy Goku falls to meta tier opponents, lol. And so despite specifying the version, he also wants him to come charging right out of the gate at full speeds against opponents he has never fought before, and even basic knowledge won't help (it may with IW and Atom, but not Aquarian and def not Ambrose Chase or Fantomex type characters).

Originally posted by Mendax
Wasn't this version also basically the same one who fought Radditz though?

There's like a 5 year gap between the 23rd WMAT, and the arrival of Raditz.

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

There's like a 5 year gap between the 23rd WMAT, and the arrival of Raditz.

4-5 years of peace though. I'm sure Goku and Piccolo were training, but doubt they made the tremendous gains of the tournaments and Red Ribbon Army eras.

No Saiyan invasion to prep for, no real motivation to get stronger fast. And Goku just became a dad, hard to devote to training in those first few years.

I didn't think there was that much of a time jump. You have a source for that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*Shrug* writers, lol.

Remender did a helluva great job on the series, don't get me wrong.

Would've been even better if Opeña had been given time to draw every issue.

It's just that BFRing Horsemen like that was a random asspull.

Originally posted by cdtm
4-5 years of peace though. I'm sure Goku and Piccolo were training, but doubt they made the tremendous gains of the tournaments and Red Ribbon Army eras.

No Saiyan invasion to prep for, no real motivation to get stronger fast. And Goku just became a dad, hard to devote to training in those first few years.

...As for Goku being a new father: it definitely wouldn't have stopped him from training, lol. This guy is probably the worst parent in all of fiction.

Originally posted by Mendax
I didn't think there was that much of a time jump. You have a source for that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cosmic cube 🙂

I'm saying that these guys can outreact a Goku who fights like he did against Piccolo.....the version you stipulated in the challenge.

He gets his before fts as well. Goku obviously couldn't go all out here due to context. The blitz is happening.

Also, cdtm pointed something out. How good of a fighter is Aq.

@Galan...

Would you consider Goku physical attributes (super strength and speed) part of his power? I know ki amping helps his stats but even before this, Goku still had super strength. If Aquarian took away Goku powers, wouldn't Goku still be a super strong and fast brick?

Aquarian made normal humans so weak that they collapsed. Until they were too weak to even breathe. He doesn't just take away powers, lmao.

So much for basic knowledge eh Carv.

Cap used aikido against Aquarian, who wasn't fighting Cap. Goku doesn't fight like that, either.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Remender did a helluva great job on the series, don't get me wrong.

Would've been even better if Opeña had been given time to draw every issue.

It's just that BFRing Horsemen like that was a random asspull.

Probably a fan of Transformers Prime, Shockwave using the Space Bridge to bfr was his signature move.

The thing is, when Ultra Magnus used it on Predaking, he came back. Should never be used as a final boss killer, that's when it's cheap.

Originally posted by cdtm
Probably a fan of Transformers Prime, Shockwave using the Space Bridge to bfr was his signature move.

The thing is, when Ultra Magnus used it on Predaking, he came back. Should never be used as a final boss killer, that's when it's cheap.

Whoops, meant Soundwave.

Soundwave used the space bridge as a tactic. Not Shockwave.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Aquarian made normal humans so weak that they collapsed. Until they were too weak to even breathe. He doesn't just take away powers, lmao.

So much for basic knowledge eh Carv.

Cap used aikido against Aquarian, who wasn't fighting Cap. Goku doesn't fight like that, either.

Show me people collapsing.

Originally posted by Galan007
...As for Goku being a new father: it definitely wouldn't have stopped him from training, lol. This guy is probably the worst parent in all of fiction.

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