Well. The forum is dead as is, so may as well respond (as its such low-hanging fruit, lol).
Cdtm, please actually read my scans and posts. The reason why you were on ignore, is because you were just wasting time and throwing as much mud as you could, hoping it sticks. A lot of what you brought up has already been addressed, or at least, wouldn't need to be brought up as it has been pre-empted.
But let us go through your 'points'.
Originally posted by cdtm
Goku's Power Pole is magic. Death Battle even had it hurt PC Superman because of the magic reason, and odds are any writer would do the same for an official crossover.
OK. A bit of a meaningless post, as no-one disputed otherwise. Death Battle and what they assume, however, is equally meaningless. Grow a spine and brain, make your own judgements.
And as I proved, magic breaks physics. Speedball controls kinetic energy, yet Junzo Muto's Iron Fist KO's Speedball, specifically stated because of magic being outside kinetic control.
Again, what Speedball can or cannot do with Junzo isn't applicable to what Aquarian can or cannot do with Goku. Aquarian, moreover, does not just negate kinetic energy - he negates ALL energy. Something that Speedball doesn't.
It further stands to reason that Aquarians Null Field's statement of all energy could not possibly cover magic, for the same reason Speedball could not affect magic. Magic doesn't operate by known rules, and Wundarr the Aqarian has no knowledge of how magic energy operates when he makes his statement (This extends to the Cosmic Cube he absorbed the knowledge from, as Cosmic Cubes are not The Vishantii or Agamotto)
Let's tackle these 'point' in reverse order. Firstly, I posted scans where it WASN'T Aquarian making the statements - one of the statements was from the letters section of a comic, and one statement was from the narration within the comic. Yes, one statement was then from Aquarian himself - but that all adds on top of each other. We have character statements saying ALL energy, narration statements saying ALL energy, and essentially writer interviews saying ALL energy.
Really, it cannot be clearer than that.
Secondly, Aquarian does not need to 'know' the energy to negate it. As my scan showed, he negates energy even when in a coma, lol. He doesn't control what it negates, it just...does.
Thirdly, and perhaps most damaging to your 'point', is that I already clearly showed that whilst magic IS exotic, it is just energy. Moreover:
And I realize Doctor Manhattan claimed magic was merely another form of energy... But that's Doctor Manhattan. Aquarian is not Doctor Manhattan.
Vulcan, an energy manipulator, also said this, as my earlier scan showed. Now I also show Hank Pym saying the same thing. Trying to equate it to Dr M is disingenuous on your part.
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm probably wasting my time with you at this point, because all you really do is troll Carver and "low hanging fruit", and revert to bad faith arguments, or outright ignoring of counter arguments, but:I guess this proves any old sneezing powder would work, amiright?
Such a trolly post. If you made any counter arguments (or indeed, any arguments) worth responding to, I would have.
But as to your scan, and point about magic dust....
And?
I never once said the effects of different energies were the same. I fully, 10,000% agree, that magic has different effects. You are getting incredibly confused with this nonpoint.
Sound energy has different effects to heat energy, to kinetic energy etc. If I am cold, I turn my heater on - I don't punch myself in the face. If I want to listen to my fav music and watch my fav shows, I don't jam my fingers into a plug socket....
Electrical energy has different effects to sound, to heat, to light etc. Magic has different effects. Fully agree, never argued this point you're trying to refute, lol. Magical dust indeed has different effects to normal dust.
My ACTUAL point, is this:
Go back to my post about purple light, lol. It is certainly different from red light, or yellow light. They have different effects. Can Spectrum control it, if we only have scans of her controlling yellow light? We all agree purple light is different to yellow, but no-one argued they were the same. HOWEVER, we all agree it's 'light'.
Magic ENERGY is indeed different to heat ENERGY. But it is ENERGY. Vulcan could manipulate it. Pym explicitly destroys your point. Vision, as far from magic as one could get, can detect it:
So...yeah. Magic energy is energy. Aquarian negates all energy, as said by narration, character statements and interviews.
To refute it, actually bring something to the table. Help Carv out. Using Speedball's failure isn't it, as Speedball isn't Aquarian (I do like how hypocritical you are, though, in saying Aquarian isn't Dr M - then turn around and try to equate Aquarian to Speedball, lol).
Back to the challenge at hand, Goku uses the Power Pole, and the energy from it is negated. Whether it be kinetic, or magic. Goku himself, as he is holding it, would also then have his own energy negated (assuming he doesn't get trapped in the expanding field in the first place).
He is thus unable to harm Aquarian.