Originally posted by playa1258do people actually look at comic characters as members of a "brand" team? That's so weird if they do. Each brand has great and not so great stories and characters, and even lame characters can produce great stories. Hawkworld is a great example, Hawkman is not a good character usually, but that series is great.
No they don't. The only thing they have in common is wanted DC to lose.
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To find anyone who does not have enough power to destroy planets in DB, you either need to look relatively early in the series or pick characters who simply are not fighters to begin with, lol.
Even someone like Chiatozu qualifies.
But yes, under normal conditions, most of them would die in the vacuum of space; not to mention it usually goes against their moral code, unless we're talking about villains only.
Now guys like Frieza, Cell or Buu can do whatever they want and they'll be perfectly fine afterwards.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who in DBZ can take out Gojo?
Maybe some of the earlier Dragonball tricks like Roshi's hypnosis? Or Chiaotzu and General Blue's telekinesis? But it feels a bit more iffy.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Huh. So in pure slugfest/blasting type fights, Gojo is pretty much unbeatable (short of destroying the planet)?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I mean, the Z Fighters don't need to actually destroy the planet for the beam itself to still have planet-busting potential.
Do they just float in space then? But yeah, would it take a planet buster from the DB universe to take this guy out?
That said, I really don't know much about Gojo, though it sounds like he's pretty much helpless in the vacuum of space. So just send in base Freeza, I guess -- he can casually finger flick the planet AND survive in space.
Originally posted by Astner
Kind of. You can't hit him, he has a passive barrier (aptly named Infinity) that infinitely divides space or some-such so that you can never "reach him." This barrier works against magic (curse energy techniques), and anything that exceed a certain mass, speed, etc. So dealing direct damage without unmaking Infinity somehow isn't really possible. Maybe something like the Pre-Crisis Superman "bursting out of the bounds of infinity" when he was looking for Supergirl could work. But I don't see anyone in Dragon Ball pull that kind of trick.
But is this 'infinity' the same 'infinity' that he uses on humans who can withstand 0.2 seconds of? Because it honestly sounds like hyperbole, I don't need to tell you of all people that infinity is, well, infinite. 0.2 seconds of infinity is still infinity.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But is this 'infinity' the same 'infinity' that he uses on humans who can withstand 0.2 seconds of?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it honestly sounds like hyperbole, I don't need to tell you of all people that infinity is, well, infinite. 0.2 seconds of infinity is still infinity.
The best argument for a literal reading of it comes from his Blue techniques where he manifests negative objects to create a "pull." This is explain by convergences of an infinite series. I'm guessing that the author thought of the Riemann zeta function.
Originally posted by Astner
No. Infinity (Mugen) is the barrier. Immasurable Void (Muryoukuusho) is his Domain Expansion.All of his techniques are themed around his Limitless (Mukagen) ability, which allows him to bring infinity into reality.
The best argument for a literal reading of it comes from his Blue techniques where he manifests negative objects to create a "pull." This is explain by convergences of an infinite series. I'm guessing that the author thought of the Riemann zeta function.
I understand that they are two different attacks - my point is that the usage of the terms 'immeasurable' isn't exactly 'immeasurable', or 'limitless', if humans can withstand 0.2 seconds of it. Therefore, to then say 'Mugen' is truly infinite, when we know in the exact same series the term 'immeasurable' or 'unlimited' isn't truly that, is...iffy.
It's like me saying 'Superman is invulnerable', and saying his is then impossible to harm. Which would be wrong of me.
Well yeah, but if I came into debates saying Superman wins because he is invulnerable and hence immune to damage, I'd be laughed at (even more than I am now). Yet it's clearly said he's invulnerable (though showings say otherwise).
If we are to have cross genre threads, we need to have a common baseline/standards to compare both. If showings exist showing that the reverse is true - that Superman CAN be damaged/wounded, then he's not really invulnerable, despite the term being used.
And neither is Gojo 'infinite' in the application of his powers.
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Apart from that, suppose this Gojo/DB fight took place on an indestructible planet, no BFR - does he then thrash the opposition handily?
