!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by deft298 pages

Hail Pope Carver IV!

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
it also seems like they've backed themselves into a corner with daima powerlevels. vegeta is already using his max power in ssj3, so i am guessing he and goku are about equal. but duu and kuu keep becoming stronger, so i'd bet they'll become more powerful than vegeta and goku. then there's also gomah and the third eye amp to consider (it's marketed as some kind of ultimate power). then there's neva and the others who are also scheming behind the scenes to think about.

and since god power isn't a thing yet, there is really no way for goku or vegeta to "break their limits" like they normally do in db. i'm thinking a wish from the dragon will probably have to be the reason why they win.

I mean, the Demon Realm Dragon will definitely be summoned, but I hope it's not used to save the day again. Hopefully its wish(es?) will just be used to restore the Z Fighters back into adults, and make them forget the Daima-era ever happened. That alone would fix pretty much every plothole.

As for how they'll ultimately defeat the baddies: I won't be surprised if they fuse into Vegito again(they do have access to Shin's Potara earrings.) Then we'll finally see that theoretical SS3 Vegito that some people have been fangirling over for decades.

Originally posted by deft
Is Rymus the supreme being of Dragon Ball's universe?
Rymus is certainly the creator of the Dragon Ball multiverse, but I don't know if he'd be considered its "Supreme Being"(in a TOAA/Presence kind of way.)

After all, we still don't know if Rymus created upper-echelon entities like Zen-Oh, the Angels, Zalama, etc., and it's also reasonable to assume that he did not create the Demon Realm itself. Moreover, we don't know if his powers stop at 'just' high-end creation, or if he has other abilities as well. As of now, he and Zen-Oh just seem like opposite sides of the same coin: Rymus is the ultimate creator, and Zen-Oh is the ultimate Destroyer. Imo, neither of them would be classified as a 'true' Supreme Being.

We do know that as of DBS, Zen-Oh is regarded as the supreme ruler of the multiverse, and Whis states that no one in existence is above him(whether that status also gives him absolute authority over the Demon Realm isn't clear.) That said, it's unknown how Zen-Oh even assumed that position in the first place -- did someone else put him in that roll, or did he crown himself? /shrug

tl;dr
Aside from carver, DB's one true Supreme Being is Toribot. 👆

Seems like Goku and Vegeta are weakened. Especially in the base and Super Saiyan form.

Originally posted by Galan007
I mean, the Demon Realm Dragon will definitely be summoned, but I hope it's not used to save the day again. Hopefully its wish(es?) will just be used to restore the Z Fighters back into adults, and make them forget the Daima-era ever happened. That alone would fix pretty much every plothole.

As for how they'll ultimately defeat the baddies: I won't be surprised if they fuse into Vegito again(they do have access to Shin's Potara earrings.) Then we'll finally see that theoretical SS3 Vegito that some people have been fangirling over for decades.

ugh another fusion would be just as cheap as a wish from the dragon. and they'd also have to explain how vegito defused again by dbs.

Originally posted by carver9
Seems like Goku and Vegeta are weakened. Especially in the base and Super Saiyan form.
what makes you say that?

Besides the erasing ability of Zeno or a God of destruction, what are the top 5 most powerful energy attacks in dragonball? Like if every character had equal powerlevels, which attacks would be the strongest?

Destructo Disc 👆

Makankosappo, Kienzan, Final Flash and Genki-Dama.

As for the absolute best technique:

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
and they'd also have to explain how vegito defused again by dbs.
It was established that Potara fusion only lasts a maximum of 1 hour for mortals:
https://ibb.co/zPKNthD
https://ibb.co/g9MPpxF

So that's an easy way to explain why they would be separated again in DBS. The bigger issue is explaining why Goku, Vegeta, and Shin were all shocked to learn that the fusion was temporary during the Zamasu arc -- if they had previously fused/de-fused in Daima, they would've already known about the time limit... But again, it could all be reconciled with a simple mind-wipe-wish at the end of Daima. /shrug

Of course, they may not even fuse at all. I would just be surprised if Toei didn't take the opportunity to showcase a SS3 chibi Vegito(especially with all the other callbacks to the Boo arc.) ermm

Originally posted by LordGod
Besides the erasing ability of Zeno or a God of destruction, what are the top 5 most powerful energy attacks in dragonball? Like if every character had equal powerlevels, which attacks would be the strongest?
In no particular order: Destructo Disc, Tri-Beam, Spirit Bomb, SBC, Final Explosion.

And if these count as energy attacks, they'd be in the discussion as well: Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack, Solar Flare, Mafuba, Vice Shout, Arale's toon-force.

Originally posted by LordGod
Besides the erasing ability of Zeno or a God of destruction, what are the top 5 most powerful energy attacks in dragonball? Like if every character had equal powerlevels, which attacks would be the strongest?
dabura's spit.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
dabura's spit.
Yeah that was actually ****ing op

Not energy though.

Also those transforming abilities like Boo turning people into candy or that DB character that could turn people into carrots.

Tori was high all the time and we loved him for it

Galan, why isn't this mentioned when it's a crazy speed ft. Let's pretend planet Namek was the size of earth (even though we know it's bigger). It was mentioned that Goku was on the other side of the planet. He was able to cross planet Namek in some seconds, heck, probably less than a second.




This alone would make him much faster than light.

Yeah, that's been mentioned quite a bit. It's definitely a good speed feat, but kind of hard to accurately quantify.

We know Goku got from A-to-B really fast(before Freeza could kill Vegeta), but we don't know exactly how long it took. We also don't know exactly how big Namek is, but earth-size seems reasonable.

Originally posted by carver9
He was able to cross planet Namek in some seconds, heck, probably less than a second.

This alone would make him much faster than light.


Not really, you will circle the Earth seven and a half time in around one second

If anything, it actually makes him slower than light as he crossed the planet once in some seconds/in a second

I agree with both of you. Thanks for the responses.

Originally posted by carver9
Galan, why isn't this mentioned when it's a crazy speed ft

This alone would make him much faster than light.

I think maybe it's because you're wrong as usual? I'm getting the impression that reading manga, much like comics, isn't your forte.

Just like lying IS your forte.

Where did I lie?

Originally posted by carver9
Let's pretend planet Namek was the size of earth (even though we know it's bigger).
how large is namek though? because unless it's at least 7 times bigger than earth, then it's not a light speed feat.