Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's one way to get around the increasing power levels. Comics have to keep selling, so the way they get around it is with what battle boarders term 'PIS' - so Thor, despite being All father etc, gets low showings.
The alternative is not using him in comics, and Marvel will never allow it. For our purposes, then, the low showings should all be disregarded when arguing with anime/manga characters.
Lol
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You disagree?In Marvel and DC, they have to presevythe status quo. So street levellers like Batman, when on a team with literal gods and supermen, are still relevant. How are they relevant, when a human in DB is left behind? We get Batman and his feats.
The problem is, you keep trying to make Manga and comics some kinda equals when they are not in any way comparable. You would debate a comic character the same way you would always debate them. That doesn't change due to them being in a Manga thread. If you think Batman can tank a punch from Darkseid in an Anime thread, you need to carry around that same thought in every other thread. They don't morph into a different character based off who they fight. Unless you have something in ruling that say otherwise. Something that you tend to only use when it benefits you and ignore when it doesn't (troll).
Originally posted by carver9
The problem is, you keep trying to make Manga and comics some kinda equals when they are not in any way comparable. You would debate a comic character the same way you would always debate them. That doesn't change due to them being in a Manga thread. If you think Batman can tank a punch from Darkseid in an Anime thread, you need to carry around that same thought in every other thread. They don't morph into a different character based off who they fight. Unless you have something in ruling that say otherwise. Something that you tend to only use when it benefits you and ignore when it doesn't (troll).
But when the threads are 'comic character Vs anime/manga character', then.... surely that's trying to compare them?
And as for name-calling, I'm not the one multiple mods have called troll (repeatedly).
Originally posted by LordGodIn the movie, base Broly soaked an attack from SSG Vegeta:
Posted this in the manga forum, but since it's pretty dead I thought this battle might have better luck here.Broly (DBS) vs. Buuhan
In the manga, base Broly was able to briefly hold his own against Ultimate Gohan(who was already equal to Kefla a few arcs prior):
https://ibb.co/P42pLkg
https://ibb.co/W6Qy68J
And then parry/withstand a few strikes from FP Beast Gohan:
https://ibb.co/znGtxk7
https://ibb.co/DLdPfKd
https://ibb.co/2c3bRCx
...All of which is a lot more than I'd expect from Boohan, tbh.
That said, while Broly is a prodigy of the highest order and an absolute tank to boot, I somewhat question is his ability to definitively win here without transformations. Boo's infinite regen + stamina are absurdly OP and difficult for even the most seasoned warriors to get around, and Broly is still FAR from a seasoned warrior. So even if base Broly starts off more powerful, this nerfed Boo could still win in a battle of attrition -- he won't fatigue or take any lasting damage(sans complete atomic destruction, obvs); Broly eventually will.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85this doesn't make sense to me. why would we disregard low showings for anyone?
That's one way to get around the increasing power levels. Comics have to keep selling, so the way they get around it is with what battle boarders term 'PIS' - so Thor, despite being All father etc, gets low showings.
The alternative is not using him in comics, and Marvel will never allow it. For our purposes, then, the low showings should all be disregarded when arguing with anime/manga characters.
Originally posted by Galan007that was only in the manga. anime kefla seemed stronger to me, and was way above anime gohan. still a good feat for broly though.
base Broly was able to briefly hold his own against Ultimate Gohan(who was already equal to Kefla a few arcs prior):
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
this doesn't make sense to me. why would we disregard low showings for anyone?that was only in the manga. anime kefla seemed stronger to me, and was way above anime gohan. still a good feat for broly though.
Dark only debate using high showings. That's it. Anything else is off the tables tbh.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
this doesn't make sense to me. why would we disregard low showings for anyone?that was only in the manga. anime kefla seemed stronger to me, and was way above anime gohan. still a good feat for broly though.
Does DBZ have low showings like in comics, PIS, as it were?
With the hundreds of writers working across the years at Marvel/DC, we have variety in comics that DB does not have. With the continuity that we have in comics, where everything has to keep to a status quo, we get weirdness like Black Panther or Invisible Woman doing more damage than Thor or Hulk, for example.
There's no black/white in comics, just a middling grey where heralds and streets mix together.
Originally posted by carver9
Dark only debate using high showings. That's it. Anything else is off the tables tbh.
When Spidey tanks the Ultimate Nullifier, is that not a low showing for the UN? It barely destroyed a city block, lol.
We shouldn't ignore that?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXIndeed. That's why I said "in the manga", and followed it up with a scan... From the manga. 👆
that was only in the manga.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXWell the DBS anime consistently shit on Gohan, but the manga randomly wanks the bejesus out of him. Even during the ToP, manga Ultimate Gohan >>> anime Ultimate Gohan... And Kefla is still extremely powerful in the manga as well:
anime kefla seemed stronger to me, and was way above anime gohan. still a good feat for broly though.
*I'm not saying that base Broly is on Ultimate Gohan's level, mind you. I'm just pointing out that he was strong enough to [albeit briefly] hold his own... And blocking/soaking attacks from Beast Gohan is an even better feat still, imo.
Yeah, when Boo absorbed DaiKaioshin, he unknowingly received his God ki as well. That dormant power jumped from version of Boo to version of Boo, until it ended up with Pure Boo. When Pure Boo was destroyed, it transferred into his human reincarnation: Oob.
...And given Oob's feat during the Moro arc, the amount of God ki at his disposal is absolutely staggering.
Originally posted by Galan007do you have kid buu and uub above buuhan, like the anime implied?
Yeah, when Boo absorbed DaiKaioshin, he unknowingly received his God ki as well. That dormant power jumped from version of Boo to version of Boo, until it ended up with Pure Boo. When Pure Boo was destroyed, it transferred into his human reincarnation: Oob....And given Oob's feat during the Moro arc, the amount of God ki at his disposal is absolutely staggering.
