!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Do you have any faith in Toyotarō or Sasuke carrying on Toriyama's legacy?

Or it will be more like this?

We also know that Toyotaro can write a good DB story by himself, when given the opportunity: the Moro arc(which I enjoyed for the most part), was basically all him... So that's also a plus.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
do you have kid buu and uub above buuhan, like the anime implied?

Where Oob is concerned: as of DBS he knows that he has an enormous amount of God ki at his disposal(something Boo was obviously never aware of), and on top of that, Oob also has Boo's latent/natural potential as a fighter. Given what a completely untrained Oob was able to do with his God ki(after just a little bit of coaching from DaiKaioshin), and I definitely think he has the ability to become more powerful than all of the Z Fighters. The Moro arc finally made it clear why Goku would still be so eager to train Oob by the EoZ chapters.

Originally posted by Galan007
No. Per manga/primary canon: Boohan > Bootenks > Buff Boo > Super Boo > Pure Boo ~ Gray Boo > Fat Boo(evil) ~/> Fat Boo(good).

Why does it feel like the old Namekian will merge with Piccolo by the end of this

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so you don't have 100% ssj3 goku at least close to mystic gohan's level? because the heavy indication is that kid buu was strongest version of buu, yet full power ssj3 goku could have beaten him while mystic gohan was already outclassed by buutenks.

And in the manga, Pure Boo is only stated to be the "most difficult" version of Boo, not the most powerful:
https://ibb.co/qNLFW87
Which likely just refers to Pure Boo's "evil incarnate" status. He can't be bargained or reasoned with, he can't be controlled, he has no allegiances, and he just goes around whimsically killing and destroying for the lulz. The other versions of Boo were a bit more docile, or at the very least, more measured.

That said, Boo retained all the memories of his past transformations(examples: 1-2), yet still stated that he was the most powerful Boo of ALL TIME(up to that point) after absorbing Gotenks:
https://ibb.co/qBVrmmc
*ie. Bootenks > ALL previous versions of Boo. As confirmed by Boo himself.

Then after absorbing Gohan shortly afterward, Boo stated that he was more powerful than EVER BEFORE:
https://ibb.co/n7bVsgj
*ie. Boohan > Bootenks > ALL previous versions of Boo. As confirmed by Boo himself.

Goku, on the other hand, was so vastly outclassed by even Super Boo's power that he didn't even attempt to fight him because he knew it would be suicide:
https://ibb.co/sjdmyXB

Hell, Goku was even ready to use the Metamoran dance to fuse with Vegeta again, just to fight Super Boo:
https://ibb.co/hgmb5dL
*ie. Boohan > Bootenks > Super Boo > FPSS3 Goku.

Conversely, Goku seemed very confident that he could "obliterate" Pure Boo if he got the chance to fully power-up as SS3:
https://ibb.co/h2jVqQv
*ie. Boohan > Bootenks > Super Boo > FPSS3 Goku > Pure Boo.

Then it's just a matter of using feats/accolades to fill in the other characters. So cumulative Boo-arc [manga] scaling would be:
SS1 Vegetto > Boohan > Bootenks > Buff Boo* ~ Ultimate Gohan > SS3 Gotenks ~ Super Boo > SS1 Gotenks > FPSS3 Goku > Pure Boo ~ Gray Boo > Fat Boo(evil) ~/> Fat Boo(good) > SS2 Vegeta.

*Given Buff Boo's extreme lack of on-panel appearances, I'm not exactly sure how he compares to Ultimate Gohan. All we know about Buff Boo is that he was stronger than Super Boo, but weaker than Bootenks... Same as Ultimate Gohan. /shrug

Originally posted by carver9
Why does it feel like the old Namekian will merge with Piccolo by the end of this

ohh yeah. i was just talking about their levels in the anime.

They need to give Piccolo more love

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
ohh yeah. i was just talking about their levels in the anime.

You could go from Saiyan saga Vegeta destroying planets with a casual/uncharged finger-beam, to Saiyan saga Vegeta only being able to destroy the Earth with his most powerful attack, to SS1 Goku getting hurt by a rock, to Popo overpowering SS1 Goten+Trunks, to Garlic Jr. being a Freeza-level threat, to dead villains keeping their bodies and power-levels while in Hell, to Pikkon effortlessly one-shotting [Super]Perfect Cell, to SS1 Goku beating Pikkon, to Tien and Yamcha being able to fight the Cell Juniors, to Ultimate Gohan being more powerful than Goku but still getting stomped by Bootenks, to Goku trading blows with Bootenks, to Pure Boo being the most powerful Boo, to Goku preforming decently well against Pure Boo, to BASE Vegetto pummeling the absolute christ out of Boohan... And the list goes on.

yeah that was def true in the buu series, when you have scaling like- goku>kid buu>buuhan>buutenks>mystic gohan>super buu>goku>super buu. lol.

and i know it's been talked about before but base vegetto stomping buuhan is a ridiculous showing for a fusion.

Since Daima has given us a backstory for the Supreme Kais, where do you think the regular ones like King Kai come from? Same thing with Grand Kai, who I really liked (wish they would have used him instead of Shin)

Originally posted by carver9
Why does it feel like the old Namekian will merge with Piccolo by the end of this

Originally posted by LordGod
Since Daima has given us a backstory for the Supreme Kais, where do you think the regular ones like King Kai come from? Same thing with Grand Kai, who I really liked (wish they would have used him instead of Shin)

Anyway, per Daima: we can assume that almost anyone with pointy ears is from the Demon Realm. The Kaioshin, for example, all have pointy ears because they are from the Demon Realm. Therefore I would assume the same 'logic' also applies to their cosmological subordinates... Especially since they all have pointy ears as well(be it in canon or filler): Kaioshin-Attendants have them, DaiKaio has them, North/South Kaio have them, East/West Kaio have them, and even planetary Gods have them.

*While DaiKaio and East/West Kaio were only shown in anime filler, they were still designed by Toriyama. Additionally, they(or at least their roles) do still exist in canon: U7 has 4 different "Lords of Worlds"(Kaio), who each preside over 1/4 the universe. Above them is the "Great Lord"(DaiKaio.) Above him is the "Lord of Lords"(Kaioshin):
https://ibb.co/VvY6kTM
https://ibb.co/pyXF1wb

tl;dr
Pointy ears are the linchpin to everything, and almost every deity in DB is from the Demon Realm.
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episode 14 was another letdown for me. there's only supposed to be 6 episodes left, so you'd think the pacing would be a little better.

I hope someone is communicating to them that this show is garbage. It feels nothing like DB.

some episodes have been good, but for the most part i agree with you.

that's why i don't get why the show seems to be so well received by the general audience. 😕

I just looked and you're right, this sh** got a 100% rotten tomato review and the rest of the reviews are also positive. It has to be scores from people that know nothing about DB. Has to be...

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Best series ever 👆 really captures the spirit of DBZ.

I remember seeing an article where one of the Toei/DB execs basically said that events from Daima will tie-into future DB stories. So if certain plot-points go unresolved by Daima's conclusion, that's probably why. They don't really need to worry about strict pacing if the story is just going to continue later on(even though random filler episodes and side-quests being inserted into a [short] series is really annoying.)

Personally, the chibified characters are the main reason I can't get into Daima. It didn't work in GT, and it doesn't work here. That said, I think the story would still 'feel' like DB if the characters were just adults instead... The plot itself screams "Dragon Ball" to me. /shrug

Originally posted by carver9

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Carver spamming up the whole site with those ad links...

He's singlehandedly keeping the image hosting sites free for the rest of us.

jfc ep.15 was shit too. this is hilarious. 😂