!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by MrMind298 pages

Originally posted by Philosophía
Ok.

Where iyo does Nappa rank?

let's see

saibamen is equal 1 raditz

krillin during saiyan saga one shotted 3 of the saibamen

so krillin is at least 3 times more powerful than radtiz

who is 3 times more powerful than post crisis superman?

let's say snyder's current rebirth superman is

so current superman = krillin that battled nappa

now we can move to nappa who simultineously owned tien, gohan, krillin, piccolo

who in comics can own 4 rebirth superman simultineously?

Originally posted by Galan007
So what exactly is the problem? 😕
db characters being this powerful during the weakest part of the series unnerves people for some reason.

same basic reason why people will always lowball superman no matter what high end stuff he does.

case in point- the SALT in mr mind's posts. anyone have a violin?

Originally posted by MrMind
let's see

saibamen is equal 1 raditz

krillin during saiyan saga one shotted 3 of the saibamen

so krillin is at least 3 times more powerful than radtiz

who is 3 times more powerful than post crisis superman?

let's say snyder's current rebirth superman is

so current superman = krillin that battled nappa

now we can move to nappa who simultineously owned tien, gohan, krillin, piccolo

who in comics can own 4 rebirth superman simultineously?

So, iyo, based on your thought process, Nappa = ?

Originally posted by Philosophía
So, iyo, based on your thought process, Nappa = ?

nappa= at least guardian amped sbp then

look I'm just going with the db power scaling here

Stilt, wondy isn't the only one get shot through by a gun
kudos to goku at least it's a laser gun

Originally posted by MrMind
nappa= at least guardian amped sbp then

look I'm just going with the db power scaling here

Ok.

Well, one more and we'll get through how you see the Saiyan Saga.

Where do you see Vegeta?

Originally posted by MrMind
Stilt, wondy isn't the only one get shot through by a gun
kudos to goku at least it's a laser gun

Powered down and caught off his guard 👆

Frieza's army tech has advanced beyond what it originally was during the Namek Saga, too.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Ok.

Well, one more and we'll get through how you see the Saiyan Saga.

Where do you see Vegeta?

it's not how i see it I'm just going with you guys line of logic here

following galan's equation

Nappa power level is 4000
Vegeta during that time was 18,000

who is 4 or 5 times more powerful than GA SBP?

you have to go cosmic to find them

I asked you for your opinion, not some strawmen.

In that case, let's start again. This time, try to make it your own thoughts.

King Piccolo = ?

Originally posted by MrMind
following galan's equation
What "equation" would that be, lol?

Galan what exactly do you mean by DB characters having "relative durability to energy attacks"?

Thanos = Nappa > 4 Morgs = Krillin+Tien+Gohan+Piccolo >>> 1 Morg = Krillin >> 3 Saibamen = 3 Iron Mans >> 1 Saibamen = Iron Man = Raditz >> Piccolo = moonbuster = Bane.

I assume you are lowballing db with this equation

because bane cannot bust a moon even in the best, not even iron man can bust a moon

so I just change the equation up a bit. to a more fitted equation, terrax=roshi is the base, wouldn't you agree?

if not then who? certainly not bane

Originally posted by Philosophía
I asked you for your opinion, not some strawmen.

In that case, let's start again. This time, try to make it your own thoughts.

King Piccolo = ?

I'm just showing you how absurd applying db scaling to comic books is

Originally posted by LordGod
Galan what exactly do you mean by DB characters having "relative durability to energy attacks"?

It's pretty obvious:

Originally posted by Galan007
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I originally thought there may have been a time-lapse between Piccolo taking Gohan to train, and Gohan transforming into an Ape... But there isn't. Like you said- Gohan evidently went Oozaru the same night that Piccolo took him(essentially just a few hours after they fought Raditz.)

And like Bran mentioned- shortly after Piccolo moon-busted, his PL was stated to be 329:

*His PL was 322 when Raditz first encountered him, so I guess getting raped by Raditz gave Piccolo like a 2% boost, lol.

Point being, Piccolo...with a PL in the 320's...can moon-bust pretty easily with a generic one-handed blast:

Flip side, Piccolo...with a PL still in the 320's...seemingly used an all out one-handed blast(in all likelihood, a moon-buster+) against Raditz, and it didn't even leave a goddamn scuff mark:

The list of comic book heralds who can fully no-sell a moonbuster like that is.... Extremely small, to say the least.

Focus on the Raditz part.

Originally posted by MrMind
I'm just showing you how absurd applying db scaling to comic books is
So you don't think the power difference between Terrax and Gladiator is similar to Roshi and King Piccolo, which is what you said your opinion was?

Originally posted by LordGod
Galan what exactly do you mean by DB characters having "relative durability to energy attacks"?
As a character becomes more powerful, they gain the subsequent durability to energy attacks that comes with it.

It's why Roshi's moon-buster wouldn't even register to the likes of Raditz, for example. There are countless other examples, so I can explain in futher detail if need be(but I really shouldn't have to, as it's pretty self-explanatory.)

Originally posted by MrMind
Thanos = Nappa > 4 Morgs = Krillin+Tien+Gohan+Piccolo >>> 1 Morg = Krillin >> 3 Saibamen = 3 Iron Mans >> 1 Saibamen = Iron Man = Raditz >> Piccolo = moonbuster = Bane.

I assume you are lowballing db with this equation

because bane cannot bust a moon even in the best, not even iron man can bust a moon

so I just change the equation up a bit. to a more fitted equation, terrax=roshi is the base, wouldn't you agree?

if not then who? certainly not bane

Same post:
Originally posted by Galan007
**Obviously these are just arbitrary comic characters that I selected at random, but hopefully you still understand my point.

The 'scaling' I gave was just a random example that was obviously not meant to be taken literally. What part of that isn't computing?

Originally posted by MrMind
I'm just showing you how absurd applying db scaling to comic books is
You're making it much harder than it needs to be.

DB can be scaled in such a way, your bitterness notwithstanding.

Originally posted by Philosophía
So you don't think the power difference between Terrax and Gladiator is similar to Roshi and King Piccolo, which is what you said your opinion was?

it is

but if we go by the same scaling power difference

it would take GA SBP to compete with saiyan saga Vegeta

and that's something only carver would agree with out of this entire world

on which part of the equation do we scale back for comic characters so it doesn't get out of hand?

Originally posted by MrMind
it is

but if we go by the same scaling power difference

it would take GA SBP to compete with saiyan saga Vegeta

and that's something only carver would agree with out of this entire world

on which part of the equation do we scale back for comic characters so it doesn't get out of hand?

So you think the gap in power between Roshi and Nappa looks the same as the one between Terrax and Guardian Amp Prime?

Originally posted by Philosophía
So you think the gap in power between Roshi and Nappa looks the same as the one between Terrax and Guardian Amp Prime?

by the progression of db scaling logic.......yeah......