Originally posted by Astner
That's the best counterargument to my proposition so far. Because this implies that Krillin, who has a power level of 13,000 (which is more than enough to destroy a moon), couldn't hurt Vegeta under normal circumstances.
By that point Krillin was stronger than 13,000 I believe.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Because he's a master martial artist more than capable of using his opponent's momentum against him, especially when blindsiding him? 😉And why do you keep using instances from Super, if you hate it so much?
Because it's a gold mine for tearing apart even the consistent inconsistency from classic DB.
Originally posted by Astner
My argument is that there's a certain mechanic to fights in Dragon Ball.It's made clear in the manga that characters have energy reserves that are being depleted based on the damage they receive and the power they waste.
So battles (that aren't one-sided) is a process of wearing out your opponent or quickly overcoming their defenses.
That said, I do think that characters that are strong enough and can regenerate, like Cell and Buu, could survive a planet destroying blast at ground zero. Mainly because Buu did, and Cell survived the Kamehameha.
Babidi outright said Goku at super Saiyan one could destroy multiple of planets with his Ki. In this scene, Goku used a large portion of thwt power to hurt Cell. To the point of Cell acknowledging Goku looked drained. I doubt that was your standard planet buster and also, collateral damage isn't an indication of power output. Silver Surfer planet buster energy blast doesn't equal a Celestial planet busting attack.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Oh, really?Which is why Bran debunked your posts in less than a fraction of a second and shattered your orbital with a pimpslap, yes?
The debunking about what? The length of snake way? No one even tried debunking it, because the length of the thing and how much of the universe it covers is pretty solidly documented.
Citing the Super Dragon only shows an inconsistency. It doesn't mean snake way isn't a million kilometers anymore, or stretches all the way into the realm of heaven, hfil, and Kaio's world.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I call it cdtm getting sodomized, bleeding profoundly from his rectum and still asking for more.
Think it over though.
I used Krillin getting the jump on second form Freeza to say "See?? Power levels are bullshit!"
So OGD responds by saying "Bro! He ambushed him bro! He blinded him bro!"
So that tears up my argument, right?
But wait! According to the power level cult, Vegeta had to lower his defenses just for Krillin to almost kill him.
And form four Freeza casually took Vegeta's ambush attack, from behind!
Krillin getting the jump on form 2 Freeza never should have been possible, using that logic. He can't even control his power levels, so you know he wasn't holding back.
So which is it? Do power levels make you invincible? Or can anyone sneaky enough "ambush" you and win?
Like a Flash, or a Superman. Or a Batman.
Originally posted by cdtm
Lets go with this for real.Batman vs Son Goku.
1. Batman gets one sided prep, and gets to pick the time and place. Goku doesn't know he's in a fight.
2. Actual fight. Gotham city, full of people, Goku and Batman are in character. CIS and PIS are on.
Who wins?
Goku would turn batman into red mist