Phoenix Five Namor vs Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Stoic
H1's ego just won't allow him to back down. It's actually pretty sad. The Surfer is crazy fast until it's a DC character, because when it is, he becomes a statue.

P5 Namor one shots.

There are infinite different levels of speed. Any object can be statued provided they are moving significantly slower than another object.

With that said nanosecond reactions statues microsecond reactions and femtosecond reactions statues nanosecond reactions. It's simple.

I'm not even sure Namor has even microsecond reactions though.

Surfer would win by eventually going exotic after a long battle of blasting and not getting anywhere.

Originally posted by h1a8
There are infinite different levels of speed. Any object can be statued provided they are moving significantly slower than another object.

With that said nanosecond reactions statues microsecond reactions and femtosecond reactions statues nanosecond reactions. It's simple.

I'm not even sure Namor has even microsecond reactions though.

Surfer would win by eventually going exotic after a long battle of blasting and not getting anywhere.

You have no idea do you? You'd better beef up on what Phoenix Avatars are capable of. Thor can and has stalemated the Surfer. Arguing with an egotistical moron is a fruitless venture, because even when they know that they're wrong, they'll insist that they are right. Kind of like you h1.

Namor could improve time to himself personally leavening Silver Surfer 🏄‍♂️ hanging and enabling Namor to effect things for his personal reasons.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/K9kpRJo4L9QAxFd78

An example of Namor's speed grabbing the Surfer.

Originally posted by Stoic
You have no idea do you? You'd better beef up on what Phoenix Avatars are capable of. Thor can and has stalemated the Surfer. Arguing with an egotistical moron is a fruitless venture, because even when they know that they're wrong, they'll insist that they are right. Kind of like you h1.

Anyone can stalemate someone when they aren't using their top speed and reactions. It's called PIS. Happens to Spidey and Flash too.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by lawest9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/K9kpRJo4L9QAxFd78

An example of Namor's speed grabbing the Surfer.

Good find 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good find 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Anyone can stalemate someone when they aren't using their top speed and reactions. It's called PIS. Happens to Spidey and Flash too.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Namor could improve time to himself personally leavening Silver Surfer 🏄‍♂️ hanging and enabling Namor to effect things for his personal reasons.

Originally posted by lawest9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/K9kpRJo4L9QAxFd78

An example of Namor's speed grabbing the Surfer.

Originally posted by h1a8
Meaningless scan. Holds no water in a forum fight. Surfer can travel at FtL speeds and has nanosecond reactions. Namor would be a statue IF Surfer was fighting to the best of his ability as shown before (FULL CAPACITY).

Originally posted by lawest9
Not against the Phoenix Force.

Another other for Surfer is Bfr.

The Phoenix Force can literally drain the life force out of the Surfer. Even the least impressive Phoenix Avy can damage Galactus significantly. H1 just learn more about the characters that you argue against. Speed will not be an issue here. The Surfer is so far below this weight class that even comic book PIS wouldn't allow for much more than 2-3 exchanges before Norrin would be brutally defeated and burned alive by Phoenix fire.

Next you'll argue that the Surfer would perform well against Odin.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Phoenix Force can literally drain the life force out of the Surfer. Even the least impressive Phoenix Avy can damage Galactus significantly. H1 just learn more about the characters that you argue against. Speed will not be an issue here. The Surfer is so far below this weight class that even comic book PIS wouldn't allow for much more than 2-3 exchanges before Norrin would be brutally defeated and burned alive by Phoenix fire.

Next you'll argue that the Surfer would perform well against Odin.

Phoenix host can't do anything in a forum it wasn't shown to do in comics. You can argue potential (with feats) but you must also must argue propensity.

Surfer can put Namor in a black hole or bfr him.

The Surfer would be too busy fighting off the mind rape that all PF hosts can do. You have no idea what they can do. The Surfer is a light weight against them.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer would be too busy fighting off the mind rape that all PF hosts can do. You have no idea what they can do. The Surfer is a light weight against them.

Although you haven't proven Namor has the propensity to even use TP assault (assuming he can and knows how).

If Namor shows something one time only then it counts as propensity and he can think of it and possibly choose to do it in a forum fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer would be too busy fighting off the mind rape that all PF hosts can do. You have no idea what they can do. The Surfer is a light weight against them.

Originally posted by lawest9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/K9kpRJo4L9QAxFd78

An example of Namor's speed grabbing the Surfer.

Bonus!

I thought that was enough to make my point about Namor's speed and reflexes.

How has this spite thread gone on 5 pages?! Surfer has no chance.