The intrigue behind Pope Francis' "bombshell" comments on same-sex civil unions

Originally posted by wxyz
@ethneo, so incest was okay at one point and now it's not.

I thought God was immutable.

Did he condone incest at first and then change his mind?

No, you're misinterpreting what happened. God Himself is immutable, that is correct. What changed is the circumstances, not God, Himself.

I've already explained how the circumstances changed.

It was the same thing with humans finally be allowed to eat meat. Before the Great Flood (which happened about 4400 years ago give or take a hundred years or so), humans for the most part were forbidden to eat meat.

After Noah and his family stepped off the ark though God then allowed humans to eat meat. That is when animals first started to really become afraid of us.

Before then, they had no real reason to fear man.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't remember the particular story but I thought there was a passage in one of them that talked about 2 daughters who tried to seduce their dad and the bible put that act in a very bad light.

I think God may have cursed them because of that deed as well.

Lot's daughters got him drunk and tried to get pregnant from him so their lineage could continue.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't remember the particular story but I thought there was a passage in one of them that talked about 2 daughters who tried to seduce their dad and the bible put that act in a very bad light.

I think God may have cursed them because of that deed as well.

EDIT:
Just looked it up. It's the story of Lot and I guess if you read the passage it doesn't actually say it was a bad act.

Although a quick search does seem to bring up specific versus in the bible that seem to condemn it.

Yeah, that was Lot's daughters.

There's also the belief that Ham sodomized his drunken father Noah as his revenge and for some reason God decided to curse Ham's son (Noah's grandson) Canaan for the act. Weird shit.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
No, you're misinterpreting what happened. God Himself is immutable, that is correct. What changed is the circumstances, not God, Himself.

I've already explained how the circumstances changed.

It was the same thing with humans finally be allowed to eat meat. Before the Great Flood (which happened about 4400 years ago give or take a hundred years or so), humans for the most part were forbidden to eat meat.

After Noah and his family stepped off the ark though God then allowed humans to eat meat. That is when animals first started to really become afraid of us.

Before then, they had no real reason to fear man.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, that was Lot's daughters.

There's also the belief that Ham sodomized his drunken father Noah as his revenge and for some reason God decided to curse Ham's son (Noah's grandson) Canaan for the act. Weird shit.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, that was Lot's daughters.

There's also the belief that Ham sodomized his drunken father Noah as his revenge and for some reason God decided to curse Ham's son (Noah's grandson) Canaan for the act. Weird shit.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well God is pretty inconsistent

*non-existent

Originally posted by dadudemon
When I google search for it, I find a bunch of results that shows where incest happened, a lot. I did not find anything that talks about what you're saying. Or are you talking about the Talmud parts about forbidding sibling marriage?

I'm curious exactly how you worded your search criteria then.

When I typed in "Where in the Bible does it say God condemns incest?" I got a lot of relevant results.

One from Wikipedia lists Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11-12 at top of page.

The article contained in link below lists a lot of relevant verses:

https://biblereasons.com/incest

Originally posted by Newjak
Well God is pretty inconsistent.

Nah, He's not. You're just trolling again.

Maybe your 'god' can freeze time so that november never arrives 🙂

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Maybe your 'god' can freeze time so that november never arrives 🙂

Speaking of God and politics, I remember back in 2017 many a Trumper saying "God elected Trump", "Trump is God's president" and similar commentary.

So when Trump loses, does that mean that God fired Trump and these same people who will whinge and cry are actually going against God's will?

Passover is the best. God becomes a murderer of families and Jews paint houses with lambs blood.

I don't take Bash's trolling posts anymore serious than I do pooty's or Blake's.

He is not "my God". He simply IS God. Period.

Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of God and politics, I remember back in 2017 many a Trumper saying "God elected Trump", "Trump is God's president" and similar commentary.

So when Trump loses, does that mean that God fired Trump and these same people who will whinge and cry are actually going against God's will?

it will turn out that nobody ever voted for trump. remember dubya? Elected and then reelected with zero confessed votes

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I'm curious exactly how you worded your search criteria then.

When I typed in "Where in the Bible does it say God condemns incest?" I got a lot of relevant results.

One from Wikipedia lists Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11-12 at top of page.

The article contained in link below lists a lot of relevant verses:

https://biblereasons.com/incest

However...

And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; ) 2 Peter 2:7-8

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Passover is the best. God becomes a murderer of families and Jews paint houses with lambs blood.

Troll harder, pooty.

Why haven't you whined about all these heathens ganging-up on me like you did when a few people "ganged-up" on Bashy?

And don't play dumb by saying "Where have people ganged up on you?".

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it will turn out that nobody ever voted for trump. remember dubya? Elected and then reelected with zero confessed votes

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it will turn out that nobody ever voted for trump. remember dubya? Elected and then reelected with zero confessed votes

Even people like her: Trump's top spiritual adviser says opposing him is 'fighting against the hand of God'

And her:

YouTube video

She said Trump is a "chosen one" of god; who god works through and if you go against the "chosen one" god will curse you and your children and their children etc., cos reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZPOtKlYF8&feature=emb_title

Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of God and politics, I remember back in 2017 many a Trumper saying "God elected Trump", "Trump is God's president" and similar commentary.

So when Trump loses, does that mean that God fired Trump and these same people who will whinge and cry are actually going against God's will?

Originally posted by Newjak
It will be the work of the Devil and a sign we are heading to the end days.

By how can the devil get Trump fired if God handpicked Trump to be POTUS to begin with?