Superman vs Knull

Originally posted by Magnon
Mass was being "dispersed out" by the Celestials. Didn't you see them spamming celestial objects out into the void?

Do we truly know how real life planets were created? Theories are not necessarily facts, which is why we can't compare real life science to comic book science. The two will never agree with 100% accuracy.

Knull doesn't have enough showings. He's certainly fast in terms of movement speed, and he has a decent reaction feat via the Sentry showing, but the King in Black series hasn't ended.

He doesn't need the Grendel Dragon to fly. Look at his battles with the primordial gods that he fought.

Superman wins for now. Look at how he was able to evade Doomsday Rex (anyone have those scans?). In a forum match he can spam this tactic forever.

Knull at this present time has no showings to say that he can hit a character fast enough to create duplicate intangible mirror images of themselves.

In Superman's favor; all of the times that he was hit by slower opponents is plot induced drama generators, because he never had to allow for this to occur.

Can Knull possibly win? Of course, but let's wait and see what it takes to get rid of this guy. For all we know, he may die from exposure to Covid-X.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because posters like yourself never pop up and claim that Glads etc would get speedblitzed.

Btw, Albert, this was your speed feat for Knull, right?

This Surfer, right?

Just checking......

Even slowed down he’s still insanely fast.

Originally posted by Stoic
Do we truly know how real life planets were created? Theories are not necessarily facts, which is why we can't compare real life science to comic book science. The two will never agree with 100% accuracy.

Knull doesn't have enough showings. He's certainly fast in terms of movement speed, and he has a decent reaction feat via the Sentry showing, but the King in Black series hasn't ended.

He doesn't need the Grendel Dragon to fly. Look at his battles with the primordial gods that he fought.

Superman wins for now. Look at how he was able to evade Doomsday Rex (anyone have those scans?). In a forum match he can spam this tactic forever.

Knull at this present time has no showings to say that he can hit a character fast enough to create duplicate intangible mirror images of themselves.

In Superman's favor; all of the times that he was hit by slower opponents is plot induced drama generators, because he never had to allow for this to occur.

Can Knull possibly win? Of course, but let's wait and see what it takes to get rid of this guy. For all we know, he may die from exposure to Covid-X.

👆 good reasonable post. I would have said the same if you said Knull wins. 👆

Originally posted by Diesldude
👆 good reasonable post. I would have said the same if you said Knull wins. 👆

You think your opinion is valued now? we wouldn't have cared what you would've said 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You think your opinion is valued now? we wouldn't have cared what you would've said 😂

Originally posted by Stoic
Do we truly know how real life planets were created?

In contrast, there is no theoretical nor experimental evidence whatsoever of cosmic space giants creating fully-formed planets and stars in our universe.

Originally posted by JBL
Have you ever seen gladiator speedblitzed? It has happened to Superman plenty of times. That's why.

Gladiator has been tagged plenty of times. Thanos, Groot, Drax (knife Drax, not Dumb Drax), teenage Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, the corpse of Thor, Heimdall, Throg, Eric Masterson Thor, Jane Foster Thor, Black Bolt etc

Oh and Colossus.

And he has MUCH fewer appearances than Superman.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Well he currently yields the sword, so I see it as sort of standard.

Also, even if he did.....he doesn't have Gorr's godblood amping ability, nor does he have an entire planet of enslaved gods to draw upon, nor does he have a planetful of Black Berserkers to kill said gods.

So moot.

Moreover, the whole point of forging is that the end product has different properties to the beginning. So no, the Necrosword =/= Knull.

@Albert:

O...k? So you have no idea how fast he is? If I chase a fleeing weakened Usain Bolt down on a bicycle (that is powered and guided by my own power), how is that a combat feat?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gladiator has been tagged plenty of times. Thanos, Groot, Drax (knife Drax, not Dumb Drax), teenage Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, the corpse of Thor, Heimdall, Throg, Eric Masterson Thor, Jane Foster Thor, Black Bolt etc

Oh and Colossus.

And he has MUCH fewer appearances than Superman.

Does he? Gorr took it from him.

Also, even if he did.....he doesn't have Gorr's godblood amping ability, nor does he have an entire planet of enslaved gods to draw upon, nor does he have a planetful of Black Berserkers to kill said gods.

So moot.

Moreover, the whole point of forging is that the end product has different properties to the beginning. So no, the Necrosword =/= Knull.

@Albert:

O...k? So you have no idea how fast he is? If I chase a fleeing weakened Usain Bolt down on a bicycle (that is powered and guided by my own power), how is that a combat feat?

@JBL and yes, I know what your first wish to respond would be - you will dump a whole load of Superman's low showings on.

Not my point. I fully agree that he has low showings.

But just as we don't say that Gladiator is Colossus level, and ignore all of his high showings, nor should we ignore Superman's high showings and just focus on his lows.

Edit: you posted just as I did,lol. My point remains.

Corpse of Thor:
https://imgur.com/a/JcyQqEq

Which is just a husk and only retained 'some' of his old power:
https://imgur.com/VnbFhMB

Now, am sure we don't want to keep playing this game of who then has speedblitzed Thor. Street level guys.

But the point is:

Street level guys > Thor > corpse Thor > Gladiator

Or we can use Colossus. Thor one shot Colossus, and specifically called him out on his slow speed.

Colossus, of course, fought Gladiator who wasn't holding back, to a stalemate, until the building collapsed around them, when Colossus was younger and less powerful.

But you see my point? Am I allowed to use these types of showings and negate Gladiator's feats? You certainly don't, so I don't see why I need to go into threads and defend Gladiator, which is what you are asking me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Corpse of Thor:
https://imgur.com/a/JcyQqEq

Which is just a husk and only retained 'some' of his old power:
https://imgur.com/VnbFhMB

Now, am sure we don't want to keep playing this game of who then has speedblitzed Thor. Street level guys.

But the point is:

Street level guys > Thor > corpse Thor > Gladiator

Or we can use Colossus. Thor one shot Colossus, and specifically called him out on his slow speed.

Colossus, of course, fought Gladiator who wasn't holding back, to a stalemate, until the building collapsed around them, when Colossus was younger and less powerful.

But you see my point? Am I allowed to use these types of showings and negate Gladiator's feats? You certainly don't, so I don't see why I need to go into threads and defend Gladiator, which is what you are asking me.

Where he gets hit by Thor.

But you are still missing the point. You're now just trying to nitpick the scan, and go off on tangents.

Using Gladiator's best feats, he should have avoided every single punch or attack that has ever come his way.

But he doesn't.

Knull shows speed here.

https://ibb.co/zZ2CHSv
https://ibb.co/SBSc9sd

Nice. How fast would you say he was there?

Meh, he merely intercepted Thor. I wouldn't call that blitzing.

Besides, why are two unrelated characters being brought up here to discuss the outcome of this thread? Lmao

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Meh, he merely intercepted Thor. I wouldn't call that blitzing.

Besides, why are two unrelated characters being brought up here to discuss the outcome of this thread? Lmao

JBL is upset because he doesn't see why I don't debate for Gladiator et al like I do for Superman.

Am trying to explain to him that it is because he and others don't lowball Glads et al like they do with Superman.

Oh it wasn't directed at you. More to Hulkster who posted the scans in the first place and all of the 'gotcha!' gang who hadn't come out with their, usually convenient, 'we don't share feats!!!'.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Meh, he merely intercepted Thor. I wouldn't call that blitzing.

Besides, why are two unrelated characters being brought up here to discuss the outcome of this thread? Lmao

Not sure how the characters are "unrelated" in that Gorr is completely powered by the necrosword manifested by Knull and Knull just recently manifests a new one that he currently wields.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Not sure how the characters are "unrelated" in that Gorr is completely powered by the necrosword manifested by Knull and Knull just recently manifests a new one that he currently wields.

But did he forge it in Celestial fire, with a Celestial hammer?

And does he have a planet full of gods he enslaved over ages, then killed in a mass attempt to amp himself?

Does he even amp off god blood?

Also:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice. How fast would you say he was there?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice. How fast would you say he was there?

The extremeness of the blurry lines along with other context seems to lean toward superspeed.