Superman vs Knull

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
flying on a Grendel was able to keep up with Silver Surfer trying to get away on his board. Silver Surfer had to create a a dwarf star between them just to get some distance.

A weakened Surfer.

If I chase Usain Bolt who is weakened whilst riding on my bike (which is powered by my legs), that isn't really a speed feat.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And yet Knull was Blacking out all the stars on his way to Earth. Even if Clark trie to play it smart and use heat vision and try to play keep-away Knull might snuff out the sun in the middle of the fight not even knowing it is his power source but just because he wants it dark.

He covered the planet, not the Sun - and he has 100,000 dragons with him in the comic.

Not so in the fight, unless Superman also gets HIS resources (as per forum rules).

Did Alberto really say the only time he’s wrong is when he allows himself to be?

First of all, how stupid

Second, if he’s always right why does he always sound so stupid and childish while being right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A weakened Surfer.

If I chase Usain Bolt who is weakened whilst riding on my bike (which is powered by my legs), that isn't really a speed feat.

He covered the planet, not the Sun - and he has 100,000 dragons with him in the comic.

Not so in the fight, unless Superman also gets HIS resources (as per forum rules).

😂 He only covered the planet only in the first issue of King in Black if you read the tie-ins you would know what I'm saying is correct

So you're giving him all of his resources that he gets access to?

And yeah no him being weakened by going through that vortex did not affect his speed. Just the amount of energy he had left to go at that speed this panel is right after he created a dwarf star in between himself and Knull create some distance. Basically using the last of his energy on making that star instead of using it to keep his speed because he was not loosing Knull.

He specifically tells Ego he can't go faster because he is still weak from the black hole.

But you are missing the point.

He was still weak. Catching up to him is a crap feat, because he was not at his fastest.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 He only covered the planet only in the first issue of King in Black if you read the tie-ins you would know what I'm saying is correct

He doesn't cover the Sun (note my capitalisation 😉 ) only A sun. Try again.
My point still stands. He uses his dragon horde to do it, which he doesn't have here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gorr had to amp himself with a planetful of murdered gods collected over centuries just to get up to a level where he could intercept a flying Thor.

The rest are a non-factor, and would be hit by the same light attacks that Superman can pump out.

Gorr amps off godblood. Knull hasn't been shown to, and nor does he have a planet of enslaved gods to kill.

The Necrosword also needed Celestial fire and hammer to forge, and he doesn't have it here anyway.

Except Gorr was a powerless humanoid he was only able to amp himself because of all black which Knull stated he created from his living abyss ( along with all of his other experiments ). Even the regular symbiotes can get poor amps from codex but they are still an extension of Knulls power.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you're giving him all of his resources that he gets access to?

this was literally on his way to Earth this comic explains why it took him so long because he was stopping to every planet one solar system at a time and blacking out the planet taking them over and blacking out the sun's by pulling the veil of the Abyss over them. Read the comic, and stop being ignorant all the time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He doesn't cover the Sun (note my capitalisation 😉 ) only A sun. Try again.
My point still stands. He uses his dragon horde to do it, which he doesn't have here.

it was the sun in the solar he was in in the comic. End the beginning of the comic tails that wasn't the only one. READ the comic

Not being ignorant - I said he didn't block out the Sun. THE Sun. You misread it and tried to show off your knowledge, lmao.

He doesn't get his dragon horde here ,nor has he ever shown the ability to amp off god blood like Gorr. If he has, post scans. Don't post multiple times with diarrhoea about this and that and your head canon.

You were so sure Knull would stomp - use his OWN feats, rather than this whole 'oooh yeah, let's use a dragon, and Gorr, and hmmm let's add this, and that, '

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not being ignorant - I said he didn't block out the Sun. THE Sun. You misread it and tried to show off your knowledge, lmao.

He doesn't get his dragon horde here ,nor has he ever shown the ability to amp off god blood like Gorr. If he has, post scans. Don't post multiple times with diarrhoea about this and that and your head canon.

You were so sure Knull would stomp - use his OWN feats, rather than this whole 'oooh yeah, let's use a dragon, and Gorr, and hmmm let's add this, and that, '

😂 Haha, WHAT? how can he not get his Grendels they are LITERALLY part of HIS power are you trying to just limit his powers for this fight?

Cool.

Superman BFRs everyone to the Phantom Zone 👆. He has access to all of his resources, as per forum rules 🙂

Don't argue with them, I can happily quote if needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.

Superman BFRs everyone to the Phantom Zone 👆. He has access to all of his resources, as per forum rules 🙂

Don't argue with them, I can happily quote if needed.

LMAO your comprehension of logic is flawed. Clark's Phantom Zone device is exactly that a device that wasn't even invented by himself. All of Knulls Creations are part of his powers literally pulled off his living Abyss which has been giving a digital demonstration while he was explaining it even. What you would be doing would be like taking away Gorrs hounds tindles that coke from all black. 😂 Oh the desperation

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO your comprehension of logic is flawed. Clark's Phantom Zone device is exactly that a device that wasn't even invented by himself. All of Knulls Creations are part of his powers literally pulled off his living Abyss which has been giving a digital demonstration while he was explaining it even. What you would be doing would be like taking away Gorrs hounds tindles that coke from all black. 😂 Oh the desperation

Check forum rules my guy 🙂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not being ignorant - I said he didn't block out the Sun. THE Sun. You misread it and tried to show off your knowledge, lmao.

He doesn't get his dragon horde here ,nor has he ever shown the ability to amp off god blood like Gorr. If he has, post scans. Don't post multiple times with diarrhoea about this and that and your head canon.

You were so sure Knull would stomp - use his OWN feats, rather than this whole 'oooh yeah, let's use a dragon, and Gorr, and hmmm let's add this, and that, '

his run is still on going so we haven't seen if he can do so. But in Venom issue #2 he spoke of killing countless and laying waste to creation until the incident that led to Gorr. You exploding is Grendel symbionts which are created and part of his powers it's like excluding Silver Surfer surfboard in a fight

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
his run is still on going so we haven't seen if he can do so. But in Venom issue #2 he spoke of killing countless and laying waste to creation until the incident that led to Gorr. You exploding is Grendel symbionts which are created and part of his powers it's like excluding Silver Surfer surfboard in a fight

So we haven't seen it, so zero proof as of now.

If in future it is shown, then sure. I happily posted SBP being hurt by magic when comics showed he was.

The Necrosword was forged with Celestial fire and hammer. He didn't just produce it on his own.

😂 Yeah lets try to cherry pick scenarios to be in your favor Knull has to without any symbiote which is half is known power and nothing he created can be contributed to this power. Talk about headcanon

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Yeah lets try to cherry pick scenarios to be in your favor Knull has to without any symbiote which is half is known power and nothing he created can be contributed to this power. Talk about headcanon

The Necrosword was shown on panel to need Celestial fire and hammer.

Moreover, Gorr even with it still needed to amp up with godblood. Knull has never shown this ability, nor does he have a planet of enslaved gods to amp off.

So he doesn't get a showing where an amped Gorr tagged a flying Thor. Simples.

😂 the only thing you accept from Knull is him ripping the Sentry in half because that's literally the only thing he's been shown to do in his short existence without using using his powers over the abyss, but you're totally not bias. Yeah right