Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Undead Palpatine’s description on Galaxy if Heroes is interesting though:
“With his immense knowledge and mastery of the dark side, the Sith Eternal Emperor is more formidable than ever before”
Yeah but is before or after he drained the Dyad?
Also I wouldnt put too much stock in video game quotes. Wasnt it one of them that named Vader as the strongest Sith ?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but is before or after he drained the Dyad?Also I wouldnt put too much stock in video game quotes. Wasnt it one of them that named Vader as the strongest Sith ?
They are still every bit as canon as everything else. I just wouldn't put too much stock into a single quote when it comes to power levels like this.
Originally posted by Darth Thor👆
Im just reconciling the fact that Rey was powerful enough (raw power/potential I take it), yet none of the Skywalkers were an option.So it could be a genetic thing as well (Snoke is a Palpatine clone), or it could be that they have to willingly give themselves as well.
Which is all we were saying from the start. That genetics could have played a factor in Sidious's inability to use Snoke as a vessel. Still a perfectly reasonable stance to take.
Originally posted by Sheev
Which is all we were saying from the start. That genetics could have played a factor in Sidious's inability to use Snoke as a vessel. Still a perfectly reasonable stance to take.
Thats a bit of a stretch though, given he was a clone of Palps, and made for the very purpose of carrying on his legacy and his spirit.
More likely he just wasnt powerful enough to contain Palps spirit, being a first attempt and thereby a weak imitation of Sheev.
Originally posted by xPRIMExYep. Again these guys are trying to speak as factual authorities, in lieu of evidence.
Sidious’ biography gallery on starwars.com also says:“But Sidious was not so easily destroyed. He returned from death on the legendary sith world of exegol, *body broken but spirit unbowed*”
“Sidious planned to have Rey kill him in a sith ritual that would *allow his spirit to pass into her, uniting them and allowing him to rule anew*”
“By draining their life force, Sidious could *restore his own body* as the one true emperor. Instead of ruling in spirit he would dispense with puppets and claim dominion of the galaxy for himself.”
“Sidious blasted the resistance fleet with lightning and boasted that Rey-a mere scavenger-was no match for him, *he was all the sith*.”
These seem to indicate that Palpatine was only weaker physically and just restored his body.
What we still DON'T know is when Sidious began acting as a vessel for all the Sith. IF he only discovered how to do this AFTER his death on Endor, then ROS Sidious would obviously be more powerful then ROTJ Sidious. IF he became such a vessel BEFORE his death on Endor though, then ROS Sidious was probably ~ ROTJ Sidious.
Like so many things already mentioned here- we can't be sure of anything, because we just don't know.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt's not a stretch based on how you interpret the material.
Thats a bit of a stretch though, given he was a clone of Palps, and made for the very purpose of carrying on his legacy and his spirit.More likely he just wasnt powerful enough to contain Palps spirit, being a first attempt and thereby a weak imitation of Sheev.
I agree that's possible. It's just not all that's possible. We need more answers to know for sure.
Originally posted by Sheev
It's not a stretch based on how you interpret the material.I agree that's possible. It's just not all that's possible. We need more answers to know for sure.
Yeah but given hes a direct clone, I dont get why we would even consider his genetic material not being compatible.
Rey has a Mother who has no relation to Palpatine at all, so Reys genetic material would hardly be anywhere close to identical.
Wheras Snokes would be almost identical to Sheev, despite his deformities.
Originally posted by Robtard
Isn't Snoke a composite of Palpatine's DNA and some other (or others) mixed in? Why he looks the way he does?
I thought the assumption was he was a failed attempt at cloning Palpatine. Since we know he was trying to make a successful clone to take over.
But you might be right, as Mandalorian is hinting at the remnants of the Empire wanting Grogus blood for some important experiment. And some speculate it was him in a tube seen in S2 episode 4.
Both Snoke and Palpatine's son are strandcasts, mixed with other DNA.
The imperials interest in Grogu has something to do with his midichlorians. If it is connected to Sheev/Snoke, it makes sense. We know that in order to harness force energy a body needs enough midichlorians. And to access the same level of raw power that Sidious had acquired in his original body (and what he has become defined by after leaving his body), would presumably need the exact same amount of midichlorians as his original body, which Rey is implied to have.
Originally posted by Darth ThorBecause he was still a FAILED clone. I mean look at him. He was a 9 foot tall mutant who didn't even resemble the human vessels that Sidious othwise considered hopping into.
Yeah but given hes a direct clone, I dont get why we would even consider his genetic material not being compatible.Rey has a Mother who has no relation to Palpatine at all, so Reys genetic material would hardly be anywhere close to identical.
Wheras Snokes would be almost identical to Sheev, despite his deformities.
Fully possible that his genetic components had just been stretched too far by the cloners for him to be used as a vessel at all.
Originally posted by Sheev
Because he was still a FAILED clone. I mean look at him. He was a 9 foot tall mutant who didn't even resemble the human vessels that Sidious othwise considered hopping into.Fully possible that his genetic components had just been stretched too far by the cloners for him to be used as a vessel at all.
His genetic material used though.
And neither was Rey a clone of Palpatine. So theres no real logic there.
His genetic material being used in some capacity doesn't undo the fact that the genetic components were obviously mutated to a very high degree, because the cloners were "trying ANYTHING" (to the point where they created "unnatural ABOMINATIONS"😉 to make a body for Sidious. And that's the point- maybe Snoke was just too far gone genetically to be used as a vessel.
Rey was the offspring of an otherwise perfect clone- Sidious's son. So she was born with those perfect genetic markers in place. Snoke was not.