Big 7 vs X-men+Stips
This group of X-men:
Magneto
Storm
Iceman
Prof X
Rogue
Magik
Havok
is tasked with bringing down the League. They arrange to confront the members in this order:
Wonder Woman/Aquaman
Flash/Lantern
Jonn/Batman
Superman
Do they get it done?
Ground-bound X-men start behind Mags' shield, the others are flying. Empty 500mx500m warehouse.
Could they take out the Little 6 as one unit? (Big 7 minus Superman...)
Let’s assume standard flash. I know extremely well what flash can do but I also know he doesn’t always use max speed—in character I don’t think he uses max speed often. Same with superman. But use whatever reference point you think is appropriate but this isn’t a forum users flash—but then I never have and never will view speed the way some do. But like I said make whatever case you’d like man. 👆
It all turns on two factors, for me:
1. Speed
2. Xavier and Magneto power levels
Basically, for the XMen to beat Flash or Superman, you would have to assume that Chuck and Mags are operating at peak levels while Flash and Superman are operating... somewhere below peak. How far below (“standard”, “average”, etc) doesn’t really matter, my only point is that you need to skew things to be a really good day for the mutants (particularly the two I named), and a mediocre day for the speedsters.
The only debatable fights, IMO, exclude Flash and Superman. And even still, they’d be hard pressed to beat any two person team made up of Hal and either Jonn or Diana.
They stop hard at the first fight, except Wonder Woman jobs hard, Aquaman could die due to Magneto, Prof X, Iceman, and Magik though.
The little 6 would need to job enough that reality breaks apart, for the mutants to have any chance.
Or does this involve preperation, which would explain the odd Martian Manhunter and Batman pairing?
Probablyly that you think Wonderwoman and Aquaman are beating that X-men lineup. They aren't doing anything but immediately getting mindphucked,frozen and ragdolled. Everyone starts off behind Magnetos shields meaning speed blitzes are gonna be worthless on the first attack and it ensures that Xavier gets to do his thing.
Hell, it basicly negates the rush and allows the entire X-team a chance to do their thing. Jon and Hal are the only threat that can stave off Xavier with the team broken down like this. Supes shatters mags shield just to get mind whammied. Not sure how in the hell they kill or even injure him, but they can subdue him.
Originally posted by leonidas
This group of X-men:Magneto
Storm
Iceman
Prof X
Rogue
Magik
Havokis tasked with bringing down the League. They arrange to confront the members in this order:
Wonder Woman/Aquaman
Flash/Lantern
Jonn/Batman
Superman
Do they get it done?
Ground-bound X-men start behind Mags' shield, the others are flying. Empty 500mx500m warehouse.
Could they take out the Little 6 as one unit? (Big 7 minus Superman...)
Storm, Havok and Iceman are largely useless in this fight, tbh. Sure, they have some nice high feats, but on average they lack the offense to put down several of the opponents listed.
Xavier, Mags and Magik are key players though, and could carry the team a fair bit.
Rogue... I suppose it depends on what version of her shows up to the fight.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Probablyly that you think Wonderwoman and Aquaman are beating that X-men lineup. They aren't doing anything but immediately getting mindphucked,frozen and ragdolled. Everyone starts off behind Magnetos shields meaning speed blitzes are gonna be worthless on the first attack and it ensures that Xavier gets to do his thing.Hell, it basicly negates the rush and allows the entire X-team a chance to do their thing. Jon and Hal are the only threat that can stave off Xavier with the team broken down like this. Supes shatters mags shield just to get mind whammied. Not sure how in the hell they kill or even injure him, but they can subdue him.
The only way that comes even close to the truth is if the Justice Leaguers go full on jobbing, and the mutants are bloodlusted, in any other case are Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Martian Manhunter, and Superman plainly too fast for them.