Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
yes most of them, and if not they have been on the same team in some way shape or form. Magneto and xavier and storm have definitely been on the same team with all. Iceman too iirc
That's a lot of words to say 'no', lol.
My point was that you're hyping this team up to have perfect teamwork with each other - when they haven't actually been a team together before.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 agreed. It all depends on Flash's speed steal and whether he busts it out. I mean, we're entertaining the notion of ICEman starting a battle with.... dehydration, which isn't exactly his go to move....
oh i agree, but again, given standard knowledge, there's a chance i guess. the move is non-lethal so it wouldn't be a huge stretch, maybe, but yes, unlikely. i bring it up to say that in character, i think they can win. in character, i actually think they could win most of the battles. mags would be tough on both lantern (see dr polaris) and jonn (see dr polaris....) superman is tough, but there's less chance he goes attosecond than flash, and if x can get in his head, which i think is very likely, combined with the others, i don't think it's impossible they take him.
pis-less=/=forum versions though the 2 are consistently conflated around here and have been for years.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's a lot of words to say 'no', lol.My point was that you're hyping this team up to have perfect teamwork with each other - when they haven't actually been a team together before.
If they were tasked to prepare to fight them as a team, they would have pretty good synergy, the win conditions have all been on the same team before, Magneto, Xavier, Magik, and Rogue.
Originally posted by leonidas
oh i agree, but again, given standard knowledge, there's a chance i guess. the move is non-lethal so it wouldn't be a huge stretch, maybe, but yes, unlikely. i bring it up to say that in character, i think they can win. in character, i actually think they could win most of the battles. mags would be tough on both lantern (see dr polaris) and jonn (see dr polaris....) superman is tough, but there's less chance he goes attosecond than flash, and if x can get in his head, which i think is very likely, combined with the others, i don't think it's impossible they take him.pis-less=/=forum versions though the 2 are consistently conflated around here and have been for years.
Yeah, we still have in character and CIS. My view (which I think....drove you away last time we debated it, in the Weapon H thread?) is that Flash is not stupid (like Rhino) and speedsteal isn't harming the opponent (as you said).
Although, since Albert is in this thread, I will remind everyone this is how he views Barry and Wally 😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You USED Flash as an example which was a fail. If you actually read a flash comic, or (comics in general) You'd KNOW Barry is holding back murderous rage on a regular basis. Barry snapped during the Future Flash arc and killed Grodd by blowing up his head, killed Daniel West by snapping his neck, killed Mirror Master my making him impale himself with thousands if glass shards, dropped Trickster off skyscraper, killed a man named Kyle by vibrating his hand into his chest and exploding his heart, amputated Napalm's arm during a fight and then tried to impale him with a 12 inch glass shard. Mans snapped hard.Then there's the time the Negative Speed Force made Barry show his true colors and he snapped and tried to kill Thawne. And in the King Cold arc Barry snapped and beat Cold to the point he almost died. Golden Glider had to pull Barry off of him.
So, yes it's ABSOLUTELY perfect within Flashes character to do that, period. Use somebody else cause you obviously don't know what youre talking about like the usual
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yup, Wally has already been shown to be unhinged and employed a variety of this strategy in Heroes In Crisis.
Wally/Barry are starting the fight and snapping necks 😂 True golden material.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm surprised to see Wonder Woman given a free pass, tbh [and not solely in this thread]. I think people see her too much as "70% of Superman" instead of actually looking at her feats.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, we still have in character and CIS. My view (which I think....drove you away last time we debated it, in the Weapon H thread?) is that Flash is not stupid (like Rhino) and speedsteal isn't harming the opponent (as you said).
fair enough, but like i said, i don't think the speed steal leaves the opponent unable to think, so it wouldn't do much to x....
i don't remember the wh thread you're talking about, but speed isn't something i have a problem with--forum speed and ooc usage is where i take issue with it. i don't think it's impossible flash steals speed here, but i don't think it's an auto win even if he does, unless you have something that shows people DO stop thinking, or their brains completely shut down? if you do, then speed steal would end it--i just don't see him using it very often out of the gate.